Currently Being ModeratedFeb 12, 2013 12:37 PM (in response to Lancer9tn8ty)
I cant figure how to edit a post so im replying to my own post.
EDIT: The music i moved after they reposted does not work either, but i did find out that iTunes is the culprit. I can still play all purchaed music in the Zune player, no matter where i move it to. I will try downgrading to itunes 10 or something tonight after i get off work.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 12, 2013 1:02 PM (in response to Lancer9tn8ty)
So stop moving the media.
No amount of downloading iTunes, removing or reinstalling iTunes is ever going to fix the problem. The issue is you are creating the problem.
If there is insufficient space on the computers drive, point the iTunes Media folder to a different location in Edit > Preferences > Advanced.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 13, 2013 8:20 AM (in response to diesel vdub)
Ok Thats a possible work around, but it doesnt change the fact that something is wrong here.
Lets say i decide to just have all my purchases download straight to a folder in my external HDD. Then, a few months later i decide to re-sort all my music to classify them by artist and not genre. well i wont be able too because the files will stop working. Here's another scenario.. What if i get a new HDD? Am i screwed in that situation also? Of course.
I think a better work around here is stop using itunes as my media player. As much as i dislike it, i will continue to use the Zune media player until someone can actually find a solution.
Thanks for your input though!
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 13, 2013 9:32 AM (in response to diesel vdub)
Downgrading to iTunes 9 did the trick. All my music works fine no matter where I
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 13, 2013 10:08 AM (in response to Lancer9tn8ty)
Maybe a better solution would be to simply stop moving the media and allow iTunes to actually manage the content.
Once the media is in iTunes, for what reason does it actually need to be moved?
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 14, 2013 11:44 AM (in response to diesel vdub)
I gave you two legitamate reasons a couple of posts back.
I find it more disturbing that you dont see a problem here.
But before this discussion goes bottoms-ups from ill tempers and false solutions, I'll end it here because the problem has been solved. Thanks for the entertainment.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 14, 2013 11:58 AM (in response to Lancer9tn8ty)
No no! Thank you.
iTunes 9. You're kidding, right?
And as diesel says, stop moving the music around. If you do, then you will need to tell iTunes where you have moved it to. If someone moved your belongings after you put them away, you wouldn't know where to find them, would you? iTunes has the same problem.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 14, 2013 11:29 PM (in response to the fiend)
Maybe i should provide some clarification:
I think there has been a misunderstanding here. I think you guys are assuming that i let iTunes handle my music, then move it to somewhere else and not let it know, and expect it to still play my music. Thats not whats happening here. That would be silly.
You know how when you first install iTunes, it asked you if you would like iTunes to find all your music for you? Im one of those people that say no. I dont want iTunes to handle my music. Maybe one day ill give it a whirl, but for now im good.
Say, for instance, you have a song in folder 'A'. Later, you decide you want to move it to folder 'B'. Then you go in folder 'B' and double-click that song to play it with the default media player (iTunes), and nothing happens. What would be your explanation as to why that happens?
As far as me using iTunes 9, call me crazy but I actually like it.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2013 4:18 AM (in response to Lancer9tn8ty)
You problem sounded rather odd, so I tried to duplicate it in iTunes 11 and I couldn't.
I turned off copy to iTunes media folder when adding to library, then I moved a music track that was not in the iTunes media folder from folder A to folder B and right clicked on it and selected open with iTunes and it played fine. (I have to do it this way as iTunes is not my default player for MP3).
However the consequences of doing this are that you end up with two copies of the track in the library database, the original which can no longer be found as it is not in its original location and the new entry pointing to the correct location which plays OK.
So as far as I can tell, there must be something else going on as I can't dublicate your problem in iTunes 11
You may find this program interesting
iTunes Folder Watch
If you want an easy time with iTunes it really is easier to let iTunes manage your music in the iTunes media folder. Also it make life a lot easier if you want to move to a new disk or PC as iTunes can tolerate the iTunes media folder being moved as long as you tell it where it is.
I realised that my last experment was not a purchased track.
When I did it with a purchased track, iTunes recognises that it should be in the library database and brings the track up with an exclamation mark next to it. Strangely the track was added to the library with the correct loaction and would play on the secon try.
Odd behaviour, maybe it is something to do with the icloud storage system as iTunes knows you purchased the track.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2013 10:39 AM (in response to polydorus)
Thank you for your reply.
I too find this problem very odd, and its didnt start happening until i got a new computer and put iTunes 11 on it. I have a lot of friends that use iTunes and no one has ever even heard of a problem like this.
One reason i dont let iTunes manage my music is because i still have a ton of ripped music from 'back in the day' when i used to purchase CD's. The audio ripper i used back then did not tag mp3's as it created them so i am now stuck with a ton of music labeled 'Audio Track 1' and so on. And im not about to let itunes even attempt to sort music that doesnt have ID3 tags. But im getting off topic...
I also thought about iCloud storage, because when i go into my purchase history in iTunes, all my tracks have a little cloud symbol next to them even though i do not store my music on iCloud.
As far as that program you suggested, Ill give it a try. It looks intersting.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 15, 2013 10:49 AM (in response to Lancer9tn8ty)
I think the cloud symbol means that itunes thinks the track hasn't been downloaded, presumably because it is not in the expected location in the iTunes music folder.
I had that happen when I updated iTunes because for some reason itunes forgot about some of my purchases. I ended redownloading them and deleting the originals to get rid of the problem.
There is nothing to stop you keeping your purchased tracks in the iTunes media folder and the old ripped tracks elsewhere. I used to do that but I stopped because of the inconvenience when moving to a new PC.