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  • 15. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,505 points)

    I agree with crh24. I have never heard of there being two differing models with the same model number, and I am puzzled about the reference to NTSC, as the 110 will happily convert to/from NTSC/Secam/PAL, depending on the dip switch settings, as it can accept both analogue and digital input.

     

    As such, I would say that No. 1 is the one to go for. Mine connects inputs via RCA cables for audio and either RCA for video as well as S-Video for video (the latter giving a better signal from cameras), and output via firewire to your Mac, as well as RCA or S-video.

     

    Bus asking Grass Valley what the difference actually is seems a good idea!

  • 16. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    DonMigell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for the info.

    I have sent Grass Valley an email requesting the differences and will post as soon as I receive same.

  • 17. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    DonMigell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Have now heard from Grass Valley:

    'The advc 110 will work with your latest version of imac 10.8.2.1. It will only work with a fw cable, no adapters. Your mac should have a fw port either the fw 600 or the fw 800 port. Please make sure that if you get a fw 800 cable that it is either a 6-6 pin or 9-6 pin. If you use any 4 pin cable you will need an additional  power source.'

     

    So, how do I find out what fw port I have on my system?

  • 18. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    Shootist007 Level 6 Level 6 (16,640 points)

    IF it has a Firewire port, and your Mac is fairly new, 2010 or newer, it has na FW 800 port. Older Macs may of come with a FW 400 port.

     

    To be sure open Sys Info and click on the Firewire listing in the Hardware catagory.

  • 19. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    DonMigell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just spoken to Apple Support who confirm that the latest imacs do NOT have fireports as this is considered old technology. The imac however, comes with a thunderbolt port of 800 and a cable can be purchased from Apple to connect Thunderbolt with firewire. Does this make sense? Meanwhile,  I have sent an email to Grass Valley asking them to confirm if Thunderbolt cable to /fw will suffice?

  • 20. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    Shootist007 Level 6 Level 6 (16,640 points)

    Right if you have the newest iMac they do not have any FW port. But like you said Apple has a Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter which will work for your needs. But then it is a TB to FW 800 adapter and I'm not sure what FW port is included on that AV device you are looking at.

     

    If it only had a FW 400 port then you will need a second adapter, actually just a cable I believe, that goes from FW400 to FW800 connections.

  • 21. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    DonMigell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is what Green Valley advised in our earlier mail exchanges:

    'The advc 110 will work with your latest version of imac 10.8.2.1. It will only work with a fw cable, no adapters. Your mac should have a fw port either the fw 600 or the fw 800 port. Please make sure that if you get a fw 800 cable that it is either a 6-6 pin or 9-6 pin. If you use any 4 pin cable you will need an additional  power source.'

    Still waiting for them to confirm if Thunderbolt to f/w will suffice.

  • 22. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    Shootist007 Level 6 Level 6 (16,640 points)

    I have one of those adapters, bought from Apple, and it works with the 2 FW devices I have. I bought one just because as my MBP does have a built in FW port.

     

     

    EDIT:

     

    Not sure about the power output from that adapter and TB port as the FW devices I have are AC powered.

  • 23. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    DonMigell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Still waiting to hear back from Green Valley.

    Meanwhile, is someone able to confirm how many pins the Apple Thunderbolt to firewire cable has?

    If it is 6-6 pin or 9-6pins, it will not require an additional power source. A 4 pin cable will require additional power source.

  • 24. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    DonMigell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just received the reply from Green Valley:

    'Thunderbolt is not supported with our device unfortunately but if you have the option to use the ADVC-110 with a Belkin firewire 800 that would be the best route, make sure it is a direct connection from the ADVC-110 to your computer with just a firewire cable. Do not use any adapter for there is a chance that you can damage the ADVC-110 as an FYI.'

    So, they are saying that the Thunderbolt/ firewire cable supplied by Apple will not do the trick???? I am now tottally back to square one. Perhaps they have got it wrong? And using the Belkin firewire will not connect to the Thunderbolt connection? So where do I go from here?

  • 25. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    Shootist007 Level 6 Level 6 (16,640 points)

    No they are not saying the TB to FW will not do the trick. You are reading more into it then they wrote.

     

    They are saying that their device Does Not Support a Thunderbolt Connection, Only Firewire.

     

    They also go on to say not to use an adapter but make no mention of the TB to FW and that THERE IS a chance you could damage their unit.

     

    From all report I've read the TB port puts out less port, through the TB>FW adapter, then a normal FW port does.

     

    A lot of poeple over in the Macbook Pro forum are using those adapter to run multiple FW devices like sound recording gear and have been doing so since the Retina MBPs came out and Apple finally released the TB>FW adapter. There only complaint was it didn't put out enough power for some of there devices so they has to resort to using an AC adapter also.

     

    Clearly that company has not tested their device with a Mac and TB>FW adapter and is really sounds like they do not want you to buy one.

    But if you do you may also need their AC adapter to power that unit fully.

  • 26. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    DonMigell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    What is your advice here? Do I go back to them and ask if it is their definitive view that it will not work with the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire cable? And, if of course I purchase one of their units and it 'breaks down' as a result, they will not honour any repairs. I do go along with you, that it appears that the company has not tested their system with the Apple cable. Perhaps I will ask them to confirm if they have actualy tested the Apple cable to have arrived at the conclusion their system is not supported by Thunderbolt!

  • 27. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    crh24 Level 3 Level 3 (920 points)

    DonMigell wrote:

     

    Just received the reply from Green Valley:

    'Thunderbolt is not supported with our device unfortunately but if you have the option to use the ADVC-110 with a Belkin firewire 800 that would be the best route, make sure it is a direct connection from the ADVC-110 to your computer with just a firewire cable. Do not use any adapter for there is a chance that you can damage the ADVC-110 as an FYI.'

    So, they are saying that the Thunderbolt/ firewire cable supplied by Apple will not do the trick???? I am now tottally back to square one. Perhaps they have got it wrong? And using the Belkin firewire will not connect to the Thunderbolt connection? So where do I go from here?

    While it is highly doubtful that the Thunderbolt to FW800 9-pin adapter would cause a problem--it doesn't with my old ADVC-100 from pre-2005--you would also need an additional cable, either a FW800 to FW400 6-pin or 4-pin.  You could also use a FW800-FW400 6-pin adapter.

     

    If you're really worried you could go a totally different route and pick up a Hauppague HD-PVR.  It can easily connect to a VHS deck via component, composite, or S-video. There is a minor drawback with the Mac platform in that the software provided with the unit is Windows only.  I purchased a third party program, HDPVRCapture, which is written by a Hauppague engineer. One advantage to the HDPVR is that it's output is USB 2.0, no conversion is required. Another minor drawback is that the output format of the HD-PVR is AVCHD which is read by most but not all video editing software.

     

    I have both a canopus ADVC-100 and the HD-PVR but I've totally retired the ADVC in favor of the HD-PVR.  Where the ADVC excels is in reading DV from a video camera, but since all of my video duties are handled quite nicely with my Canon 5D Mark III and/or my Canon 7D I never use my DV camcorder anymore.

  • 28. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    Shootist007 Level 6 Level 6 (16,640 points)

    First off the adapter is not a cable. the cable on it is about 2-3 inches long.

  • 29. Re: VHD to dvd- what software do I require to work with new iMac 10.8.2?
    crh24 Level 3 Level 3 (920 points)

    Shootist007 wrote:

     

    First off the adapter is not a cable. the cable on it is about 2-3 inches long.

    Pickin' nits, are we?

     

    Apple says:

     

    What's in the Box?

    • Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter with built-in Thunderbolt cable