13 Replies Latest reply: Feb 15, 2013 4:35 AM by PeterBreis0807
PaulSG Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

How can I draw a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages either of which I can drag to change size ie as per Word?


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  • 1. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    VikingOSX Level 5 Level 5 (5,485 points)

    Here is a cylinder made from two circles and a rectangle with use of the graphic and metric inspectors. Once you have grouped all three scaled and layered objects, you can scale and rotate the finished object. Not a true drawing tool, so no lines of perspective effect. You can use image and gradient fills from the inspector to further tweak your creations into more realistic quality.

     

    Front circle: 0.89 inch in diameter.

    Back circle: 0.86 inch in diameter.

    Rectangle: 1.25 inch wide x 0.89 high.

     

    Screen Shot 2013-02-14 at 3.22.35 PM.png

  • 2. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PaulSG Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK, thanks -  I understand how you get an editable cylinder but I can't get that to wotk for a Rhomboid shape. What I am trying to achieve is an oblique view of a rectangular bar eg, looking down on and from one side of a beam for instance.

  • 3. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    VikingOSX Level 5 Level 5 (5,485 points)

    Like this? This was not easy to assemble with line segments and I chose not to spend more time tweaking end point perfection. With patience, you can build one too.

     

    Screen Shot 2013-02-14 at 4.33.01 PM.png

  • 4. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PaulSG Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes - I tried that too and built one but it's not editable - not in the same way as Word for instance.

     

    Thanks anyway - guess I'll have to use word and copy/paste.

     

    Just a shame that a fairly basic function is not available in Pages unfortunately.

  • 5. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (15,110 points)

    How come a function is basic when it isn't available?

  • 6. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,620 points)

    I made this in a couple of minutes:

     

    Screen shot 2013-02-15 at 4.47.47 PM.png

    All shapes are editable, what did you want to do?

    Screen shot 2013-02-15 at 4.51.01 PM.png

    Peter

  • 7. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,620 points)

    This one is neater:

     

    Screen shot 2013-02-15 at 5.08.49 PM.png

    Peter

  • 8. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    Yellowbox Level 5 Level 5 (4,565 points)

    Hi Paul,

     

    Yes - I tried that too and built one but it's not editable - not in the same way as Word for instance.

     

    Page 147 of the Pages User Guide:

     

    1. Editing Shapes

      You can manipulate and reshape the points and contours of a shape you’ve
      already placed on a page. Before you can edit a shape in this way, you need to make it editable.

     

    Thanks anyway - guess I'll have to use word and copy/paste.

     

     

    It took me 5 minutes to browse the User Guide and turn a rectangle into a parallelogram:

    And I have never before tried this in Pages.

     

    Too easy!

     

    Regards, Ian.

     

    Message was edited by: Yellowbox Sorry, shape not pasting. But it is causing interesting layout of text!

  • 9. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PaulSG Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Wow, a veritable torrent of responses!Thanks all. (..though I don't quite understand fruhulda's point)

     

    However!! I am aware of the User Guide info and the selection of "make editable" but has anyone tried rotating and/or extending the rhomboid in relation to, say, an oblique view of a flat surface? (For example when drawing a building diagram showing a beam coming off a vertical wall.)

    Screen Shot 2013-02-15 at 08.54.39.png

  • 10. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,620 points)

    Did this with 4 rectangles distorted to rhomboids, 3 green 2 no fill to form the stretched sides.

     

    This cursed website won't accept images yet again, so I'll try and show it later.

     

    Basically it did what you want.

     

    Peter

  • 11. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    Yellowbox Level 5 Level 5 (4,565 points)

    Peter,

    I can't wait to see images of your solution.

     

    Paul,

    You have me beaten. I tried every way (including searching the User Guide )  to stretch an oblique view of a beam *at the same angle* whilst *constraining* the vertical and horizontal dimensions.

     

    I tried it in Pages and Integlio app. No go.

     

    The best I could do in Pages was this:

     

    Step 1.  recreate your first image:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-02-15 at 10.30.54 PM.png

     

    Step 2. Add 8 (shorter, red) lines over the black lines:

    Screen Shot 2013-02-15 at 10.31.27 PM.png

    Step 3. Delete the black lines

    Screen Shot 2013-02-15 at 10.32.28 PM.png

     

    This is your working pattern.

    Group the bits belonging to the object on the right, then drag that group up and to the right.

    Add black lines to join the 2 ends and to act as guides so you can drag the right hand end into alignment.

    Delete red lines.

     

    Phew! If the drawing tools in Word can stretch a beam as you have shown, I am mightily impressed!

     

    Ian

  • 12. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,620 points)

    Finally got this image to insert:

    Rhomboid.png

    Just moved the right hand end out then pulled the righthand ends of the two side rhomboids out to meet it.

     

    Definitely not Illustrator but it gets there.

     

    Paul, is it that you don't know how to grab more than one point of an object at a time?

     

    Peter

  • 13. Re: Drawing a cylinder or a rhomboid in Pages
    PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (29,620 points)

    Phew! If the drawing tools in Word can stretch a beam as you have shown, I am mightily impressed!

     

    Ian

     

    In Illustrator you'd use the detail cursor and lasoo the end and pull it out.

     

    I've tried to do this in Word, in fact edit anything and found it the usual frustrating hunt for no answer.

     

    Peter