Currently Being ModeratedFeb 17, 2013 5:32 PM (in response to turingtest2)
It's still rubbish which ever way you look at it. The only people that seem to have had anything positive to say about it were the so-called "experts" whose glowing reviews plastered the Net when 11 was first released. So many of their phrases were indentical that it was obvious they were more using the words from an Apple media release rather than somebody who had actually test driven the beast and found its flaws. So while a few "experts" were on board, the real users generally appear to feel shafted. I'm certainly yet to hear or meet one user that would seriously describe this as an "upgrade".
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 17, 2013 8:33 PM (in response to sandralea)
I agree I really hate this new itunes it's soooooo annoying to deal with. HEY APPLE DUDES, WHY DON"T YOU LEAVE SOME STUFF ALONE. I HOPE YOU HEAR THE CRIES. The layout is HORRIBLE. Steve would have NEVER allowed this crap. An absolute nightmare to navigate in, totally user unfriendly, give us a break guys. Didn't you learn from your other nightmare ios 6 horrors.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2013 2:00 AM (in response to cargaut)
The other thing Apple will now need to do is gain back credibility. There is now what once was a very happy community eager to adopt anything new by Apple who are now going be waiting to 'see how others get on with it first'. That is very damaging.
The exec need to slow down, rein themselves in and let the guys that support them do the job they love.. Which is why it worked in the first place. (This could be said of many other organisations).
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2013 3:32 AM (in response to jlockley)
For those who have claimed that no one forced us to update iTunes (from the fully-functioning and decent 10.7 to version 11), the fact is, none of us expected the update to completely update every single aspect of iTunes, so that in effect, it becomes a new piece of software.
I don't recall anything that said "Warning to all users: this new update will remove functionality from a programme you've all been using effortlessly for ages, and will install a brand-new, completely rewritten and distinctly inferior product onto your computer. Are you ok with this?"!!! Please feel free to correct me, if I am wrong.
If it had said anything remotely like that, I think many people would have instantly declined the update, and waited to let others try iTunes 11 first. However, the majority of people didn't do this, and understandably downloaded the update, thinking that it was:
2) Important to update their version of iTunes, to retain security and safety of their files, and
3) Didn't think Apple would completely screw things up for them.
So, please, don't lecture us on how nobody forced us to update iTunes. Yes, you are technically correct, and nobody put a gun to our heads, but come on! Nobody expects an update to completely overwrite and install something new, that makes your life harder, rather than easier. That's not an update, in any definition of the term. That's a new installation of a new product!
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2013 5:59 AM (in response to cargaut)
Yeah, I thought "What is up with I-Tunes??" I haven't been on in awhile because I lost my hard drive and had to get another installed. I absolutely don't like the new I-Tunes. Another issue is...I HAVE NO SCROLL BAR ON THE RIGHT to adjust my screen up & down...Like nothing there. I can see one on here...Ironic seeing how THIS is Apple?? Come on Apple...READ EVERY COMMENT on here and I think you'll MAYBE get it...NO ONE LIKES THE NEW UPDATE...SO WHY NOT GO BACK TO THE OLD VERSION. You have to be able to do that for All of us I-Tunes users. After my credit is gone from a gift I received from my husband...I'm not purchasing anything else on here until you Fix some of these issues. and please fix the scroll Bar...I can only use my arrows to go up & down. Now thats CRAZY! Have a great day Apple. I wonder what other sursprises were in for??
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2013 9:28 AM (in response to cargaut)
In the last few months I've had the ignomy of firstly having to watch Itunes (which I have to run or my phone doesn't work) goose itself and in the last 24 hours installing an IOS upgrade to replace the previously faulty IOS upgrade that has bricked my phone. (The first upgrade didn't do that - it just stopped 3d working properly).
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP APPLE?
I was going to blow the £2k for a laptop - but you know what - I've parked that and the Ipad3 I was planning on getting. I am sorry guys - I just don't trust you anymore, not to make my life worse. And, seriously, as a guy who started in IT with the original MAC in the early 80's is just not something I thought I'd say.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 19, 2013 4:42 AM (in response to cargaut)
1) Yes, I did mean Steve Jobs. I had been trying to get my library to the right place so long, I was loopy. I already said that, but this is so long that it's lost in the noise.
2) I have a number of non-rant questions about the system, which I have posted both in this thread and in separate posts. None so far has received any attention, so thank you for whoever pointed out that this is a support forum.
3) I have figured out how to get the sidebar back and how to get the list view to show check boxes, among other things. It simply took several hours. Well, several times several hours. Thank you Google.
4) I think the new version has some snappy offerings, but for those of us who see the advantage of being able to manage our libraries, data etc effectively and efficiently, it is an anti intuitive system lacking sufficiently clear instructions. That's unfortunate for me, as I have a lot of stock. Let us hope Apple has the sense to scroll through the threads and get a sense of the level of dissatisfaction.
5) It is possible to revert to 10.7 (thank you Google).
Since I had a great deal of difficulty getting ITunes to recognize my devices at all ilj the beginning, I am going to see first if 11 can be used at all. (How hard would it be for Apple to offer a toggle between the old and the new interefaces, I wonder).
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Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2013 11:46 AM (in response to cargaut)
I hate it too....
1. Scroll bar hidden
2. If you have over 1 hours worth of songs in a playlist it puts it as 1.1 hours , 1.2 hours not with minutes / seconds
3. Full library tells you only how many days worth of songs you have - no hours / minutes / seconds
4. You have to mess about with resizing the window when you open I tunes
5. Play count doesn't work properly
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2013 12:14 PM (in response to cargaut)
Eliminar cover flow ha sido un muestra de absoluto desinterés por quienes utilizamos a diario iTunes. Menos es más, solamente cuando se es capaz de incluir todo, sin discriminar, en un formato más simple. Somos los usuarios quienes debemos decidir qué aplicaciones o funciones utilizaremos. Es inaceptable que Apple decida por mi, arbitrariamente, cómo debo utilizar iTunes.
Estoy molesto. Mi reproductor luce como el que utilizaba 10 o 15 años atrás.
Espero que pronto iTunes sea actualizado, ofreciendo alternativas para "todos" sus usuarios.
Espero que pronto pueda volver a disfrutar de cover flow.
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 18, 2013 12:36 PM (in response to Alex Ortega Ibáñez)
After the new itunes would not locate the music files on my computer, I spent hours trying to fix the prolem. Once I did this, iTunes imported each song 3X!!! Has anyone ever had to deal with this? It is not fun and took me a lot of manual work because I could not figure out how to find exact matches on this new version. It was a nightmare to sort through this mess.
I'm so sick of apple telling me what types of files they "approve" of and which files they don't. I've been in love with my iTunes and my iphone for over 10 years but yesterday I decided to part ways.
I found Amazon cloud. It is so much better than iTunes or even iTunes match for that matter. I can import songs from a limitless amount of devices (friends' libraries!), and I have up to 250,000 songs (there are plans that do more). It takes a little while to import a big library but all of my music is one place, my phone has plenty of room, and AMAZON WAS SMART ENOUGH TO NOT IMPORT EACH SONG 3X! Artwork is there for every album and it is really easy to use.
I spent $25 on the itunes cloud about a year ago not realizing that it didn't work for music and when I tried to get my money back, apple was useless. Goodbye iTunes. You had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage. See ya!
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