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So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?

226503 Views 234 Replies Latest reply: Jan 12, 2014 10:41 AM by vazandrew RSS Branched to a new discussion.
  • Airwa1k Calculating status...

    Yes. Buy a tablet that they will no long update less then a year out. Very smart. Wp8 and the tablets are ripoffs. You have to buy one every year to get software updates.

  • cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    Airwa1k wrote:

     

    Yes. Buy a tablet that they will no long update less then a year out. Very smart. Wp8 and the tablets are ripoffs. You have to buy one every year to get software updates.

    And do you have any way to prove that the new tablets cannot be updated?  I'd really like to know because every tablet that I have see and held in my hands is upgradeable.

  • Airwa1k Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    How about ownership of WP7 devices. Look it up. Also take a look at the roadmap for those products. Notice anything? You can buy them if you wish. It's your loss.

  • cliftonfromrichmond Level 3 Level 3 (790 points)

    I'll grant you that anyone who buys a windows Phone is an idiot.  However, you also mentioned tablets, which includes the Surface (over priced IMNSHO) iPads (also over priced), and a plethora of Android tablets.  Which of these can you prove is not upgradeable?

  • rickame Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey folks...the last number of replies have been quite off topic, if not on the silly end of debating apple vs ms..I was only interested in thoughts about updating the ipod touch or other workarounds for using things like talkatone. Now I find my email box is getting filled with such silliness...please refrain, email eachother directly or another dialogue for folks interested in such debate...no offense intended, just good net community practice..thanks, rick

  • TWolff Calculating status...

    Rick. It's taken 30 minutes to come up to speed for a reply.  This 2d gen touch was a gift, and now I feel as it's been taken away.  Alot of companies rely on customer loyalty, and people (aka customers) need and base purchase decisions on company loyalty. So, I guess that the Apple dosen't need the customers for their products.  It's been nice, fun, and very interesting! The Fun I had was truly an addiction, so I guess as every thing must come to an end and my touch will just become another MP3 player in a drawer.  Thank you Rick.  tw

  • jcossins Calculating status...

    I'm really hacked off because I recently spent £85 getting my daughter's second generation ipod touch fixed, and I might as well not have bothered! If only I'd had some sort of warning this was going to happen. She can now only use it for music. What a waste of money - I'm very quickly going off Apple and Apple software developers.

  • david davis Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    It's good for more than music.  Functionality of the app depends on the developer and if they have maintained the app with the earlier versions of the iPod considered.

     

    Among others that work are several medical apps that I use (including one very expensive app), Google Earth, and several online magazines and newsfeeds.  If you have them backed up via Time Machine or another computer, some other apps will work if you get rid of the updated version and reload the old (see my earlier post for the method). 

     

    The real pain is that I now have 6 apps available for update for my wife's Touch that cannot be updated without deleting the older version that's working on my Touch.  Now I know (from the hysterical fans) that Apple does not read this forum (not likely that some intern isn't watching, but that's beyond the issue), but this has to be one of the most ******* moves by a company I've ever seen.  I mean, how hard would it be to have both apps available and update to the ios that's needed? As I said before, it's either stupidity or intentional.

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,840 points)

    You can have 2 versions available but most developers will avoid this like the plague as the costs and complextiy on their end increases dramatically. Plus it is ALWAYS a good idea to have a local backup of any app that you have.

     

    You can also sync 2 devices to one computer and not have the issue of which apps go to which device: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1495.

     

    You can also write to the developers of the apps you use and ask them to keep multiple versions availabie.

  • david davis Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Maybe I wasn't clear.

     

    I understand that having two versions costs money.  I have no clue how some apps make money and I don't care. But I'm fairly certain it involves me downloading and using the app.  If it won't work on my device, I won't download it, and I won't use it.  That costs money too.

     

    Local backups.  Of course it's a good idea to back up.  But some apps will not work even if the older version is downloaded and the current version deleted.  So backups are good in some cases and irrelevant in others.

     

    Sure you can have two devices syncing differently.  But unless users are using their own Apple id and account, each syncs to the same iTunes files.  I haven't tried it the other way but I'd be surprised if one account could maintain an old app and the other a new one, but there's an idea to try for those willing to submit to the pain.

     

    But that's certainly not the old philosophy, "it just works."

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,840 points)

    No, you were clear. But it isn't up to Apple to maintain all the 3rd party apps it is up to those developers. If they don't chose to there really isn't anything any of us can do except buy a new device or find another app. This is true in Linux, Windows, OS X, iOS, Android, Windows Mobile, etc. It is a fact of life with computing devices.

     

    You could actually read the link before opining, but that is probably too much to ask. It appears you just want to rant you don't want actual solutions. Before you move on to another computer company be sure to do research of service, warranty and customer service. I believe HP is currently rated number 2 in all those categories, you might want to start with them.

  • aletss Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ". But it isn't up to Apple to maintain all the 3rd party apps it is up to those developers. If they don't chose to there really isn't anything any of us can do except buy a new device or find another app."

     

    - Yes it is not up to apple to maintain all the 3rd party apps. (coding, customer service, etc)

     

    - It is up to apple to have the last version available for your iOS. Apple just doesnt want to. If they wanted they would allow you to send me your app to my device (the free ones). Nop the solution: "Buy a new one". Apple controls apple store and itunes. Why apple doesnt allow let's say amazon to have the app available to download from their website, why do i have to go to itunes, log in and download it.

     

    I wrote to my apps developers, Apple blocks them.

  • Vincre Calculating status...

    Well sorry to say, but the only reason "buying a new one" is the only solution is because apple does not care about customer satisfaction via means of comforting them. The main goal was, and always will be, make the next best thing while selling it for more than it is worth.

     

    And to everyone else, do not let the apple fanboys fool you. Those apple hipsters using their fafsa money to buy "the next best thing" are only apple apologists... with no real proof that apple products are better than everything else. All the proof is flawed in that they used crap products, instead of the high end devices, to formulate their answers as to why apple is "better."

     

    THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR YOUR DEVICES. We have to accept that; either we blow another $300+, or make our own devices. Of course, we can go to other companies.
    Best thing to do is to really make your research, and find out what device suits you best, and the knowledge over the history of the company is very important too.
    Recently, i bought an itouch 5g for my younger sister. 300 dollars for it. I dont think it's worth it, as i could have found something MUCH better. But she wanted that one, so i got her that one. It all comes down to "what we really want." Also, are we okay with the downsides?

     

    Apple has the prettiest, sexiest devices. but they are NOT the best.

  • Airwa1k Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree. I bought an Apple II back in the 80's and it won't update to OSX 10.8.2

     

    They are such a rip off. Apple is so bad.

    iPhone 5, iOS 6
  • Vincre Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    how can you compare 30 years to 3 years?
    not to mention, it wasn't even a full 3 years till a device lost support.

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