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Final Cut Pro X question

1051 Views 26 Replies Latest reply: Feb 23, 2013 10:58 AM by parker612 RSS
  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Feb 21, 2013 3:35 PM (in response to parker612)

    parker612 wrote:


    Even with the updates, I don’t think FCP X will ever meet the needs of some of those professionals – but that’s okay for them and for Apple, there are other applications for the editors and many new potential clients for Apple. Apples main objective for this software was to appeal to a larger audience.


    NO NLE meets all the needs of anyone. In PPRO you need to enter After Effects to get Pixel Motion on Slowdowns... In FCPx you have Optical Flow which IMO is the best darn "Slow-Downer" ever emerged.


    FCPx's integration with Motion (If you know what you are doing Motion IS a plug-in for FPCx) is making FCPx THE NLE with the least need for roundtripping...


    But no matter WHAT - no APP in professional and creative process will EVER be able to replace several apps's worh of technology. A thing like Color Grading.... I used to leave AME or PPRO to get to either Davinci Resolve or AE for doing that. FCPx is so darn powerful at that, that I do ALL my color grading there. And might I add without ANY downsides. I personally think FCPx is a better environment to grade inside of than i.e. Resolve. There is literally NOTHING I cannot do due to Motion Template Integration. In grading again, the event library comes into play.. I have an event libray with Looks and Grades. All I need to do is to copy ONE adjustment layer and paste it as a connected clip... And there I am with a look that took hours to conceive applied in a second. Sure, you have that in Resolve... But its tools are so limited. And seriously non-appealing that I doubt that the next generation would wanna use it for anything... Speedgrade from adobe is vastly superior when it comes to RAW handling.. So I personally think that Resolve will die with the last facilty buying its overpriced plastic remote control ;-)


    To reduce FCPx as an app appealing only to a crowd of laymen is about the grandest mistake one could ever make... And would be based on Relic-Hype, rather than experience !!!


    FCPx shortage is NOT in its features... Its in making those features perform 100% - 100% of the time.

  • Tom Wolsky Level 10 Level 10 (104,615 points)
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    Feb 21, 2013 3:39 PM (in response to Studio Engineer)

    What it needs to work on is audio, and I think I see this coming from the job posting. I think we'll see roles being used as stems to feed into an integrated mixer with access to Logic effects.

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Feb 21, 2013 3:44 PM (in response to Tom Wolsky)

    I use roles for the audio tracks... I even use roles for color grading. Pretty nice to be able to bypass 1 of 7 event effects on 200 clips with the click of a mouse ;-)


    But yeah... Audio could need improvement - I'd like a little mixer, myself with small faders... But then again I always export a QT movie, pull it into protools and do the editing there and then export the audio backout in a master or stems.. No NLE for that matter will ever be able to replace a DAW ;-)

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Feb 21, 2013 4:09 PM (in response to parker612)

    parker612 wrote:


    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Personally, I do not think FCP X will make a come back and be as prominent in the industry as FCP was. However, I do think that other NLEs can learn from a few of the new features in FCP X.


    One thing that I just can not get used to is the fact that there are no tracks in FCP X. For me, being able to have several tracks to layer audio and video help keep everything organized.


    However, I'm sure if I take a few weeks more weeks working in FCP X, I could get used to it. I still do not like the idea of it though. It's just not for me.


    Parker.. Try using roles for tracks... give each audio clip you would want a separate track for a role(you can even use sub roles) then you have them like tracks....


    At first I thought... What the heck am I EVR going to use those roles for... One weekend as none of my so-called friends had time to grab a beer, I sat down and drowned my sorrows with a bottle of Brunello, FCPx User Guide, Final Cut Pro & a Larry Jordan Spoon-Fed tutorial... After that I was very thrilled and I have been using roles extensively ever since... I might add, every day I am conjuring up new ways of using those roles ;-)


    FCPx can be whatever YOU want it to... Get Creative ;-)

  • Dan Thomas (DAGWare) Calculating status...
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    Feb 21, 2013 4:34 PM (in response to parker612)

    Let me say at the outset that I don't belong in this thread. But that hasn't stopped me before <g>.


    All I'd like to say is that I'm a newbie to video editing, and FCP 7 and others scared the crap out of me. FCPX "had me at hello". In my opinion, Apple has managed to create an application that is accessible to true newbies like me, while (apparently) still meeting the needs of many professional editors. Think about that. How many other complex software applications have done that?


    Obviously it's not perfect. But look at the improvements Apple has brought, with just 7 "minor" releases. I think they're beginning to get it right.


    But what do I know?



  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Feb 21, 2013 5:32 PM (in response to parker612)

    parker612 wrote:


    Yes, for people who have not used many NLEs, FCP X is easy to pick up. It caters to the simple needs of smaller projects as well as some professional projects. However, It does not replace Avid when it comes to major broadcast and cinema projects.

    I'd put it differently...


    PC users coming to Mac (Back in the days as Mac was small) started treating OS X as they would windoze. Big Mistake. They were thinking TOO complicated and therefor tried navigating the intuitive OS X with the brute and clumsy force of windoze.


    I'd put FCPx vs. the rest.. into this here analogy. FCPx IS Mac OS and the older NLEs are Windoze...


    you say {


    However, It does not replace Avid when it comes to major broadcast and cinema projects.



    I say... It does NOT replace the RELICs USED to AVID Media Composer...


    and too, I say {


    When those relics return to dust (No disrespect - we all do) they will bring AVID Media Composer with them.

    Unless AVID turns Media Composer into something intuitive.



    one can fight progress as much as he sees fit but he can never stop it !

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Feb 21, 2013 5:57 PM (in response to parker612)

    I hope AVID will and adobe too... The more the competition... The better the products ;-)


    Exiting times indeed.



    I'm am no Apple fanboy... I am a best-software-for-me fan boy ;-)


    If out of the blue... PPRO had FCPx's event library 2morrrow... I'd use that.. Why not... It has superior playback performance due to OpenCL/CUDA Accell...

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