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Quitting Aperture During Vault Update

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Feb 20, 2013 6:22 PM

Hello,

I am using Aperture 3 in OS 10.6.8.  The library has about 70k photos (managed) on an external FireWire drive.  There are 3 vaults, two on external USB 2 drives and one on our iMac 27".  I usually backup the vaults one at a time since the USBs are so slow.  But this time I did them all at once and Aperture has been working for about 72 hours.  The progress bar is about an inch from the end and not progressing but is "rippling" normally.  The two external vault drives cycle on and off on a regular basis.  Activity Monitor indicates Aperture is functioning.  My problem is that I am going to have to disconnect the library drive in the next few days.  If the update is not finished then is it OK to use the Terminal command recommended by leonieDF in the Aperture User Tips ("If Aperture is unresponsive, how to avoid force quitting?")  to quit Aperture?  I assume I would have to recreate the vaults (on FW drives this time!) but I am concerned about possible effects on the library.  Any thoughts or suggestions on this?  Many thanks!

Mike

Aperture 3
  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,830 points)
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    Feb 20, 2013 6:36 PM (in response to Michael Boyd4)

    While it is never a good idea to force quit Aperture one of the safest times to do this is during a vault update operation. The reason being there is no real writing going on to the library.

     

    So if you must go ahead. As a precaution I would run the library repair on the library just to be safe. And of course the vault in the process of being written will most likely be toast. The other vaults that finished should be OK but you may want to do a restore from one just to be sure.

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,830 points)
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    Feb 21, 2013 6:04 PM (in response to Michael Boyd4)

    95 hours seems excessive to me. I would force quit Aperture, do a library repair and then try and make a new vault.

     

    As vaults are only snapshots of the current state of the library nothing really will be lost by this.

     

    Once you have a new vault made you can investigate the current vaults to see if they are still useable, But if it was me I'd just make new ones to be on the safe side.

     

    regards

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,830 points)
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:11 PM (in response to Michael Boyd4)

    I would just go ahead and delete the  vaults in Finder with Aperture CLOSED. Then start Aperture and remove the vaults in Aperture.

     

    When a disk that is being used gets full it is hard to predict what behavior you will see and it might be different each time it happens.  So it is possible that the symptoms you had might have been caused by running out of disk space, really no way to say for certain. What you can say is that running out of or low of disk space is a condition you really want to avoid.

     

     

    The vault like the library is really a folder containing lots of folders and files so deleting it is not as simple a task as deleting a single file. However when I go to remove a vault in Aperture I get the following dialog

     

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    Which shows both Remove and Remove and Delete options. If I select just Remove the vault is removed from Aperture but remains on the disk. Did you not see the same thing?

     

    Anyway given all you've been through you're doing pretty good. You have your library intact and a backup of it. I'd just go ahead and delete the vaults make sure you have enough room on the disk and then create new vaults. You should be good to go after that,

     

    good luck

     

    regards

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (22,830 points)
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    Feb 28, 2013 8:30 PM (in response to Michael Boyd4)

    Not sure what else to advise, you've been through some rough times.

     

    The advice in my last post still holds. Make sure the repair runs clean and redo the vaults and make sure you have enough free disk space.

     

    Also make sure that the original images from the camera are backed up outside of Aperture in addition to them being backed up via the vault. This way should the worst happen you will still have the originals.

     

    Can't say why the old cards are causing the problems you see with them. What happens if you format one or both of the cards in your camera, do they still cause probelms?

     

    good luck

     

    regards

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