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Q: iTunes Library organization in one folder...

I have a Mac Mini which serves as the family Video Server to an AppleTV (and all the other Mac / iDevices we own). It is running Lion 10.7.4, with iTunes 10.6.1.

 

The iTunes library is set up on a connected Drobo via USB. iTunes runs on the Mac Mini's internal HD (of course), but the Library is located on the Drobo.

 

This is what I want: I want the iTunes folder (including the iTunes Media folder, and all the xml / library files) to all be on the Drobo, in one self contained folder, as though it was on the Mac Mini. For some reason, iTunes chooses to keep the library files etc, on the Mini itself, when the movie / TV files are on the Drobo. Everything works as it should, but I want a tidy iTunes folder on the Drobo itself, with nothing on the Mini (which will make moving the entire library easier in the future, if necessary).

 

Regardless of my Choosing to Consolidate library / Organize Libfary (which do nothing not even a progress bar), nothing happens.

 

Here is the current state of my iTunes:

 

This is on the Mac Mini: (contains no media files, they're all on the Drobo)

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This is on the Drobo: (contains the actual movies and television show files)

 

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This is what I want on the Drobo only, to contain everything in one folder, rather than split between two drives.

 

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Is this possible? If so, how? Do I need to start from scratch? I will if that is the only way.

 

I currently have a little over 550GB of movies and TV shows.

 

Thanks,

Sal

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.8 GHz Quad Nahalem 16GB RAM

Posted on May 30, 2012 10:41 PM

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  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Feb 19, 2013 8:21 AM in response to ScotchZombie
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    Feb 19, 2013 8:21 AM in response to ScotchZombie

    You probably lost a hidden preference file somewhere along the way.

     

    File > Library > Organize Library > Rearrange files in the folder "iTunes Media"

     

    should sort you out...

     

    tt2

  • by ScotchZombie,

    ScotchZombie ScotchZombie Feb 21, 2013 2:32 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Feb 21, 2013 2:32 PM in response to turingtest2

    All is well now.  Thank you so, so much!

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Feb 21, 2013 2:44 PM in response to ScotchZombie
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    Feb 21, 2013 2:44 PM in response to ScotchZombie

    You're welcome.

     

    tt2

  • by roj harris,

    roj harris roj harris Feb 23, 2013 9:38 AM in response to sal1k
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:38 AM in response to sal1k

    This is a really interesting thread. I am currently in the middle of copying my 130Gb music library from my mac onto my new PC. (Having done the consolidate/organize step). Once there I'll follow these steps carefully to get the library imported. However, I'd just like to check that all my playlists and ratings, which are very important and took years to establish, will come over with everything else?

    Especially as you say to delete the xml file, which is where I thought these things were kept?

     

    Many thanks for taking the time to help us all out!

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Feb 23, 2013 2:06 PM in response to roj harris
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    Feb 23, 2013 2:06 PM in response to roj harris

    The XML is a secondary listing of the information in the iTunes Library.itl database that can be read by third party software, if necessary while iTunes isn't even running. If you library started life a long time ago on a back then the database might be called iTunes Library without the .itl extension. If so you should rename it to add the .itl before trying to connect to it on Windows.

     

    tt2

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Aug 1, 2014 5:54 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Aug 1, 2014 5:54 AM in response to turingtest2

    An updated version of the advice in this thread is now at Make a split library portable.

     

    tt2

  • by PAC2007,

    PAC2007 PAC2007 Oct 25, 2014 1:09 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Oct 25, 2014 1:09 PM in response to turingtest2

    Hi turingtest2,

     

    Wonder if you can advise me with clarifying the steps needed to make the whole iTunes folder independent on an external, like the original OP I have my media stored on a Drobo but I've noticed just how big the mobile application & album cover folders have become, and I'd like it all to be on the Drobo.

     

    I have my music/videos/movies etc all in a 'iTunes' folder on the drobo, and the rest (mobile apps, album covers and itunes library files etc) in the User/Music/iTunes folder on the mac.

     

    I just wanted to be careful with the steps in this thread because the drobo folder is over 1TB in total, and I dont want to it copying/duplicating from me not following it properly.

     

    Thanks in advance!

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 25, 2014 1:14 PM in response to PAC2007
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    Oct 25, 2014 1:14 PM in response to PAC2007

    Hi.

     

    Please confirm the exact path to the media folder as listed under iTunes > Preferences > Advanced and the current options for Keep... and Copy... on the same tab.

     

    tt2

  • by PAC2007,

    PAC2007 PAC2007 Oct 25, 2014 1:20 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Oct 25, 2014 1:20 PM in response to turingtest2

    Both organise and copy options are ticked, and the path is set to /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 25, 2014 2:01 PM in response to PAC2007
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    Oct 25, 2014 2:01 PM in response to PAC2007
    1. Backup both your library and media folders. What follows should not cause any problems but you should be doing this already and in the unlikely event that something goes wrong and you don't have a backup you will kick yourself.

    2. Use File > Library > Organize Library... and tick both Rearrange... and Consolidate... boxes. This will ensure that iTunes moves everything into the modern structure. Your mobile applications will either be moved over to the /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes/Mobile Applications folder or be copied, not absolutely certain, but once the process is complete you can delete the Mobile Applications folder on the internal drive.

    3. With iTunes closed Copy the library files and Album Artwork folder from /User/Music/iTunes to /Volumes/Drobo. If your main iTunes Library file is called iTunes Library and not iTunes Library.itl rename the file you have copied over.

    4. Hold down alt/option as you launch iTunes. Keep holding until prompted to choose or create a library. Click choose and browse to the iTunes Library.itl file.

    5. Check that the library behaves properly. If not ask back here for further directions, otherwise close iTunes and move on.

    6. Rename the folder iTunes as iTunes Media, start iTunes. Check under iTunes Preferences > Advanced that the media folder now reads /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes Media. If not correct it, close iTunes, then reopen.  Check that the library behaves properly.  If not ask back here for further directions, otherwise close iTunes and move on.

    7. Create a new iTunes folder at the root of the drive, i.e. /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes, then move the iTunes library files, Album Artwork and iTunes Media folder inside the new iTunes folder.

    8. Hold down alt/option as you launch iTunes. Keep holding until prompted to choose or create a library. Click choose and browse to the iTunes Library.itl file inside the new iTunes folder.

    9. Check that the library behaves properly.

     

    Assuming all is well update your backup and then remove the redundant iTunes folder on the internal drive.

     

    Should you find that performance suffers copy the library files and album artwork folder back to /User/Music/iTunes and switch libraries. Move the files back to the Drobo and access on that path in preparation for moving to a new computer or drive.

     

    tt2

  • by PAC2007,

    PAC2007 PAC2007 Oct 25, 2014 8:04 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Oct 25, 2014 8:04 PM in response to turingtest2

    Hi tt2,

     

    Thanks for that detailed list, all seems to have worked except for a few strange things.

     

    When I clicked on organise and consolidate it seem to add songs/albums into various folders within my old /Drobo/iTunes folder (for example: Music,  iTunes Music folders both appear within /Drobo/iTunes)??

     

    Further to that, having completed all steps, /Drobo/iTunes/iTunes Media/ now has within it folders including /Music and /iTunes Music, each with certain amounts of music, and also folders relating to album covers (although not the same size as the one within my new /Drobo/iTunes path).

     

    Finally, when I do listen to any random song, it seems to appear outside of /Drobo/iTunes Media, right into /Drobo/iTunes where the library files are?

     

    Any suggestions?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 26, 2014 3:45 AM in response to PAC2007
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    Oct 26, 2014 3:45 AM in response to PAC2007

    Check under iTunes Preferences > Advanced that the media folder now reads /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes/iTunes Media. If not correct it, close iTunes and reopen.

     

    Check under File > Library > Organize Library... that the rearrange box is greyed out. If not tick it. Tick Consolidate files. Click OK. This will copy anything that has ended up outside the media folder into it.

     

    Under Edit > Preferences > Advanced turn Keep... off, click OK, then go back and turn it on again. This should enforce the internal structure of the media folder.

     

    You will need to manually tidy up any media files that now lie outside of the media folder. There may be a redundant .xml file at /Volumes/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml which you can discard. You might also want to prune some of the older files out of the Previous iTunes Libraries folder.

     

    You should now have /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes containing the library files and the folders Album Artwork, iTunes Media, and Previous iTunes Libraries. /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes/iTunes Media should contain the folders for various media kinds. All artist folders should be down in /Volumes/Drobo/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music.

     

    tt2

  • by PAC2007,

    PAC2007 PAC2007 Oct 26, 2014 7:10 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Oct 26, 2014 7:10 PM in response to turingtest2

    tt2,

     

    You are an absolute legend!

     

    I followed your instructions, took me a while to move all music neatly into the /Music folder and make sure all other folders where in the right place, I also I unticked/ticked 'Keep iTunes' after clearing up too.


    Anyway, touch wood, all seems to be looking good and songs are playing, updated some apps and they downloaded into the right folder! 

     

    I can't praise you enough pal, thanks so much for the instructions and follow up!

     

    Quick question, now this is all done, when I come to do a clean install of Yosemite, when I option click iTunes I select the iTunes Library.itl file and thats it? Will I need to set the pref/advance/location again?

     

    Thanks again.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 27, 2014 1:33 AM in response to PAC2007
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    Oct 27, 2014 1:33 AM in response to PAC2007

    You're welcome.

     

    Option-start-iTunes and choose the .itl on the external drive should be all you need to do.

     

    tt2

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