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why is osx 10.8.2 so slow?

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  • defjamblaster Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Jan 7, 2013 9:06 AM (in response to softwater)

    hi, i came here for the same problem and downloaded the app you suggested. i dont want to hijack this thread, but i would like you to look at it if you dont mind. how can i arrange that?

  • John Galt Level 7 Level 7 (33,110 points)
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    Jan 7, 2013 10:34 AM (in response to defjamblaster)

    defjamblaster wrote:

     

    hi, i came here for the same problem and downloaded the app you suggested. i dont want to hijack this thread, but i would like you to look at it if you dont mind. how can i arrange that?

     

    Run Etrecheck and post a new question with a description of your symptoms. Include the Etrecheck results. You are more likely to receive responses that way.

     

    After you post that question, you can also reply to this thread with a link to your new question. Thanks!

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  • richparr79 Calculating status...
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    Feb 9, 2013 12:09 PM (in response to gmd12)

    Here here. My Macbook pro is unacceptably slow, and I'm only running web browsers. I don't even bother trying to open mail.app any more, or the native calendar app. It's really appalling. My question is, how do a do a reinstall of Lion, which I bought from the app store?

     

    And here's my etre data:

     

    Hardware Information:

              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,5

              1 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores

              2 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

     

    Startup Items:

              Cocktail - Path: /Library/StartupItems/Cocktail

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.8.2 (12C60) - Uptime: 0 days 0:20

     

    Disk Information:

              Hitachi HTS545016B9SA02 disk0 : (160.04 GB)

                        disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 159.18 GB (37.46 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS23N 

     

    USB Information:

              Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

              Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

              Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

              Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

    FireWire Information:

     

    Kernel Extensions:

              com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower          Version: 1.5.1

              com.silex.driver.sxuptp          Version: 1.5.1

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:

                     [failed] com.apple.cfprefsd.xpc.daemon.plist

                     [failed] com.apple.coresymbolicationd.plist

     

    Problem System Launch Agents:

                     [failed] com.apple.accountsd.plist

                     [failed] com.apple.AirPlayUIAgent.plist

                     [failed] com.apple.CalendarAgent.plist

                     [failed] com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication.plist

                     [failed] com.apple.tccd.plist

     

    Launch Daemons:

                     [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

                     [loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist

                     [loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist

     

    Launch Agents:

                 [not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist

                     [loaded] com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist

                     [loaded] com.flipvideo.FlipShare.AutoRun.plist

                     [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist

                     [loaded] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist

     

    User Launch Agents:

                     [loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist

                     [failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

     

    User Login Items:

              Google Drive

              ConnectService

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              3ivx MPEG-4

              Flash Player

              Flip4Mac WMV

              Growl

              Perian

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              Flash Player.plugin

              FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin

              Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin

              googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin

              iPhotoPhotocast.plugin

              JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

              npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin

              QuickTime Plugin.plugin

              RealPlayer Plugin.plugin

              Silverlight.plugin

     

    User Internet Plug-ins:

              Move-Media-Player.plugin

     

    Bad Fonts:

              None

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                   7%          WindowServer

                   5%          installd

                   2%          hidd

                   1%          EtreCheck

                   1%          (sh)

                   1%          opendirectoryd

                   1%          ConnectService

                   1%          SystemUIServer

                   1%          Activity

                   1%          activitymonitord

     

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              88 MB          mds

              55 MB          System

              47 MB          App

              39 MB          CCleaner

              37 MB          SystemUIServer

              33 MB          CalendarAgent

              31 MB          WindowServer

              27 MB          installd

              20 MB          Console

              20 MB          Finder

  • Art1939 Calculating status...
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    Feb 13, 2013 8:06 PM (in response to gmd12)

    I came upon this thread when looking for an explanation and a solution to the same problem. It all started when my wife upgraded from a 2008 MacBook Pro to a new 13" MacBook Pro Retina in Jan. For compatibility, I upgraded the OS on my mid 2009 MacBook Pro 2.56 from 10.7 to 10.8.

     

    Then we both noticed a dramatic slow down in virtually every action on both machines, from loading applications, to openeing documents, to opening new web sites in Safari. Plus, on my mid 2009 machine, Safari has become very unstable and crashes sometimes 10 to 20 times a day. Nothing that I've tried has helped so I thought that others might be experiencing similar challenges and have uncovered a solution. I guess not yet.........  :-(

  • apps4u Calculating status...
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:01 PM (in response to gmd12)

    I have a office full of mac's some 4 years old upto 6 month old all have at least 8GB to 12GB ram core 2 or core i 5 or corei7 cpus and I have the same issue on at least 10 mac's My mac which is the admin mac uses a local account so if there is a problem with network I can still log in. for the last few week It can take around 20 min before my mac will start I log in then it gets half way through showing the icon on top bar and then dose nothing I have to reboot and after a few time of doing that it will boot and work if it show the time in the top bar it's fine and if it stops before the time show I up I need to reboot as it wont make a network connection . and I have at least 10 on my network account lock each day I have to either renable the account or some time the account is enabled but still wont let user log in.

     

    (Over last few years mac's are getting worse bugger with each update Im close to binning 60+ mac's)

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (26,980 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:10 PM (in response to apps4u)

    If you're having such severe problems with that many Macs, it is something about the setup of all those Macs that is causing the problem. You've got some crap software on all of them or something along those lines.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,905 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:11 PM (in response to richparr79)

    richparr79 wrote:

     

    Here here. My Macbook pro is unacceptably slow, and I'm only running web browsers. I don't even bother trying to open mail.app any more, or the native calendar app. It's really appalling. My question is, how do a do a reinstall of Lion, which I bought from the app store?

     

     

    You don't need to reinstall Lion. Just uninstall the following:

     

    Startup Items:

              Cocktail - Path: /Library/StartupItems/Cocktail

     

    Kernel Extensions:

              com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower          Version: 1.5.1

              com.silex.driver.sxuptp          Version: 1.5.1

     

    And buy some additional RAM.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,905 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 4:13 PM (in response to apps4u)

    Thomas beat me to it. I suggest starting your own thread and asking your question there. If you piggy-back on someone else's thread you are not likely to get a good response.

     

    I suggest that you should also download EtreCheck from http://www.etresoft.com/download/EtreCheck.zip, run it, and paste the results in your new thread.

     

     

    Disclaimer: Although EtreCheck is free, there are other links on my site that could give me some form of compensation, financial or otherwise.

  • rcancill Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 7:21 AM (in response to thomas_r.)

    Thomas,

     

    I have the same issue on three different MACs!  The boys in MAC OS X Development have dropped the ball and are shipping untested crap!  Mac's quality control has gone into the sewer over the past 6 to 9 months.  Funny, but Steve Jobs passes away and quality goes with him????

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (26,980 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 7:25 AM (in response to rcancill)

    Nonsense. As has already been said multiple times, you have some crap third-party software installed on all three machines, or you're somehow making some other mistake with all three (like trying to run Photoshop and Illustrator on 2 GB of RAM.

     

    You need to do some troubleshooting.

  • Leslie Bell Level 2 Level 2 (340 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 7:30 AM (in response to defjamblaster)

    Mountain Lion (and Lion before it) are optimized for future merging with iOS and iPads.

     

    The last stable bug free Mac OS for COMPUTERS was 10.6.8 Snow Leopard, which is fairly free of any iOS contamination (or "features", if you insist) and can run the most programs and is still the most backwards compatible (Rosetta).

     

    There are at least a thousand posts in these forums by people asking how to back up to Snow Leopard. Search out the info and hopefully you have a machine that can run it.

  • Barney-15E Level 7 Level 7 (33,405 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 7:53 AM (in response to Leslie Bell)

    Leslie Bell wrote:

     

    The last stable bug free Mac OS for COMPUTERS was 10.6.8 Snow Leopard,

     

    My three installs of Mountain Lion (and one native install) have been stable and bug free.

  • rcancill Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 7:52 AM (in response to thomas_r.)

    Thomas,

     

    I wish it were that simple.  It is not.  I've cleaned these macs run all the recommendations I have found on various forums and nothing works.  It is just bad coding by the OS X development team and a major breakdown in Apple's QA before releasing updates. 

     

    If you have been following the news, they are a bit under the gun and have had serious OS X hacks including compromised systems within Apple's private networks!  I'm sure some of the latest updates are security patches pushed out quickly to deal with this, but we are all getting the shaft as a result.

     

    Keep in mind the reason that most of us chose the MAC over PC's is we don't have to deal with this kind of BS!  This is a regular occurence on Windows and some vendors make a ton of money selling "tune up" utilities for Windows.  I haven't found many for the MAC.  CleanMyMac is a good tool to clean up disk, but does nothing to track down garbage apps that may be causing issues. 

     

    I ran that EtreCheck but don't know how to track down, find, and delete some of its results.  i really don't want to have to get down into the UNIX core that sits under OS X via terminal.  Nor should  I have to if Apple does there job! 

     

    I have no idea who you are or why you defend them, but the bottom line is the OS X folks are not doing their job! 

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,385 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 8:04 AM (in response to rcancill)

    rcancill wrote:

     

    Thomas,

     

    I have the same issue on three different MACs! 

    And I do not, on a lot more than 3 machines, you can rant about or fix the issue, what do you want to do.

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