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Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?

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  • Auxburgo Calculating status...
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    Feb 25, 2013 5:11 AM (in response to Mark Block)

    Thing is, we should not talk about what would Jobs do if he was alive. Thing is cover flow is removing a part of user expirience. I dont feel at home when I open iTunes. And mind you, I have been using iTunes since the first version ever came out for the Windows.

     

    Sad thing...

  • affenpinscher Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 7:59 AM (in response to Mark Block)

    I wonder if they were having problems integrating cover flow into 11. Remember, it was late. Could it be that programming couldn't get it together in time?

  • Patrick Weisser Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 11:01 AM (in response to affenpinscher)

    I think Apple's decision to remove Cover Flow had nothing to do with the Mirror Worlds lawsuit (since it was ultimately thrown out of court), and everything to do with lazy programming practices.  In trying to make iTunes smaller, they decided to slash features instead of coding the existing features and functionality more efficiently.  Another reason may be that Cover Flow does not fit in with their iCloud agenda, because creating a Cover Flow display of album art for music stored in the cloud would take a lot of bandwith and be non-funcational on a slow connection.  Of course a way around this would have been for iTunes to simply cache album artwork for iCloud content on your local device storage.  So the audio data would be in the cloud, and just the artwork on your hard drive (or flash storage, etc.)  But going the extra engineering mile like this to give the users the best experience is just not something Apple seems to care about anymore in the post-Jobs era, given what they did in iTunes 11.  It also seems pretty clear they want to promote iCloud lock-in, where you don't have your music stored locally at all anymore, and you will forever be reliant upon Apple to stream the music and other digital media you purchase and "own" a license to play.  Power iTunes users with large personal libraries, custom cover art, or high definition versions of songs (with better quality than the iTunes versions), are simply out of luck and marginalized in this new streaming paradigm.  What a shame - Apple used to be all about empowering the creative types and power users who live on the margins of mass consumerism. 

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    Feb 25, 2013 11:06 AM (in response to Patrick Weisser)

    Patrick Weisser wrote:

     

    I think Apple's decision to remove Cover Flow had nothing to do with the Mirror Worlds lawsuit (since it was ultimately thrown out of court), and everything to do with lazy programming practices.  In trying to make iTunes smaller, they decided to slash features instead of coding the existing features and functionality more efficiently.  Another reason may be that Cover Flow does not fit in with their iCloud agenda, because creating a Cover Flow display of album art for music stored in the cloud would take a lot of bandwith and be non-funcational on a slow connection.  Of course a way around this would have been for iTunes to simply cache album artwork for iCloud content on your local device storage.  So the audio data would be in the cloud, and just the artwork on your hard drive (or flash storage, etc.)  But going the extra engineering mile like this to give the users the best experience is just not something Apple seems to care about anymore in the post-Jobs era, given what they did in iTunes 11.  It also seems pretty clear they want to promote iCloud lock-in, where you don't have your music stored locally at all anymore, and you will forever be reliant upon Apple to stream the music and other digital media you purchase and "own" a license to play.  Power iTunes users with large personal libraries, custom cover art, or high definition versions of songs (with better quality than the iTunes versions), are simply out of luck and marginalized in this new streaming paradigm.  What a shame - Apple used to be all about empowering the creative types and power users who live on the margins of mass consumerism. 

     

    NAILED IT!!

     

    Yep,

  • rustyintegrale Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 11:32 AM (in response to Patrick Weisser)

    Patrick Weisser wrote:

     

    I think Apple's decision to remove Cover Flow had nothing to do with the Mirror Worlds lawsuit (since it was ultimately thrown out of court), and everything to do with lazy programming practices.  In trying to make iTunes smaller, they decided to slash features instead of coding the existing features and functionality more efficiently.  Another reason may be that Cover Flow does not fit in with their iCloud agenda, because creating a Cover Flow display of album art for music stored in the cloud would take a lot of bandwith and be non-funcational on a slow connection.  Of course a way around this would have been for iTunes to simply cache album artwork for iCloud content on your local device storage.  So the audio data would be in the cloud, and just the artwork on your hard drive (or flash storage, etc.)  But going the extra engineering mile like this to give the users the best experience is just not something Apple seems to care about anymore in the post-Jobs era, given what they did in iTunes 11.  It also seems pretty clear they want to promote iCloud lock-in, where you don't have your music stored locally at all anymore, and you will forever be reliant upon Apple to stream the music and other digital media you purchase and "own" a license to play.  Power iTunes users with large personal libraries, custom cover art, or high definition versions of songs (with better quality than the iTunes versions), are simply out of luck and marginalized in this new streaming paradigm.  What a shame - Apple used to be all about empowering the creative types and power users who live on the margins of mass consumerism. 

     

    Apple can do what it likes, but it will never dictate to me what I do with my music, my artwork or my files. I will store it where and how I like. I will play it when and where I like and I will not be dictated to by a company I have paid good money to.

     

    The Cloud is a pie in the sky as far as I'm concerned and Apple is not going to 'own' my data. Ever.

  • Kenan Calculating status...
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    Feb 25, 2013 11:35 AM (in response to Patrick Weisser)

    as already said: it seems inovation isn't any more the driver at apple. Creativity and vision has drove Steve nearly 30 years... long term vision of a man. And of course the coolnes factor. Removing CF looks is like a sign leaving this fields beside other bad decisions. There is a gap. And I fear no one will cover it.

  • MacPow75 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 11:42 AM (in response to rustyintegrale)

    Hey Rusty...

     

    Yea I feel the same way... As soon as a good iTunes replacement comes along... to play my music on my computer... I will buy it... until then I will stay with iTunes 10 (liked 9 better) ... If necessary, I will have a computer with iTunes 11 to synch my phone. But iTunes upgrades stop NOW for me.

     

    Kind of a shame. I buy lots of stuff... Hardware, Software, Music... all that... They can earn their money from me the old fashioned way, or not at all...

  • branfordman54 Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 11:51 AM (in response to MacPow75)

    Everyone: If you haven't already, please be sure to leave feedback: http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

  • Kenan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 11:55 AM (in response to branfordman54)

    to leave feedback is proably the best idea - thanx brandfordman

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    Feb 27, 2013 4:46 AM (in response to abombaci)

    I miss Cover Flow too!

  • Bearico Calculating status...
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    Mar 3, 2013 1:03 AM (in response to eamaturo)

    Cover Flow is a feature in OSX Lion! It should still be in Itunes! Aesthetics Apple! Bring it Back now!!!!!!

  • zanyjudy Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 2:48 AM (in response to Bearico)

    Bring back Coverflow!!! And while your at it abandon iTunes 11.

  • beck3693 Calculating status...
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    Mar 3, 2013 5:41 AM (in response to abombaci)

    iTunes 11 isn't the same without Coverflow. Bring it back, please!

  • distantrhythm Calculating status...
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    Mar 3, 2013 10:34 AM (in response to Bearico)

    Good point, my system disks have Lion and my Mtn. Lion update is saved on an SD card, so if I wanted to rebuild my system without Time Machine I could bring back Cover Flow by just refusing to upgrade to iTunes 11 after rebuilding. But I read that iTunes 11 messes with your actual music files, therefore I am not sure that the results would be entirely predictable.

    So it's possible, but what a hassle

  • Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)
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    Mar 3, 2013 11:11 AM (in response to distantrhythm)

    distantrhythm wrote:

     

    ... But I read that iTunes 11 messes with your actual music files, therefore I am not sure that the results would be entirely predictable.

    iTunes 11 does not alter the media files themselves.

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