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how does save to iCloud work

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Dec 29, 2012 5:46 PM

I just installed OS 10.8.2 on my imac and macbook pro. When I create a new Pages doc or when I want to save a textedit doc, I am first offered to save it to the icloud. If I do that, where does it "go"? I have docs arranged in  folders in Pages/iWorks in my icloud account. Will I find these new saved docs in the same Pages/iWorks section of my icloud account?

Text edit didn't used to go in that iWorks/Pages section. Is this a new option?

thank you

iMac (20-inch Early 2008), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • the0pticnerve Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
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    Dec 30, 2012 8:40 AM (in response to dsvphd)

    When I create a new Pages doc or when I want to save a textedit doc, I am first offered to save it to the icloud. If I do that, where does it "go"?

     

    It goes to iCloud. A server somewhere. Current file versions are also stored locally so you don't have to be online to access them. (Changes will get pushed to iCloud next time you go online)

     

    Will I find these new saved docs in the same Pages/iWorks section of my icloud account?

     

    Yep.

     

    Text edit didn't used to go in that iWorks/Pages section. Is this a new option?

     

    It is.

  • VikingOSX Level 5 Level 5 (4,665 points)
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    Dec 30, 2012 8:47 AM (in response to dsvphd)

    Pages and TextEdit save files in separate iCloud destinations on remote Apple storage service. Neither colocate files, but one can overide this fact. What may make this somewhat confusing is that when logged in to the iCloud web interface, there is no iWork or other category that allows you access to those TextEdit documents.

     

    If you start the OS X Pages and it opens to show previous saves to iCloud, you can drag and drop TextEdit documents (.rtf, .txt) from your local directory into this Pages iCloud location. You can drag them out again too.

     

    Try this. Open TextEdit to display files stored on iCloud. Do the same with Pages. Now you have two textured grey windows open. Drag and drop an arbitrary TextEdit document into the Pages iCloud location, then drag it back to TextEdit. Now drag the same document to your desktop (it will delete from iCloud), and then drag it back onto the open TextEdit panel to write it back to iCloud.

     

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  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Feb 26, 2013 5:05 PM (in response to VikingOSX)

    For clarification, how do you get that window in the screengrab? I've opened TextEdit, but cannot for the life of me work out where to find the files (a surprising and annoying thing considering I've been using Macs for years). On File/Open, I can see all the usual stuff on my machine, but no iCloud stuff.

     

    There are definitely files there as I can see them in System Preferences/iCloud (even though I didn't actually put them there, I think OSX has auto saved them for some reason?).

  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,125 points)
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    Feb 26, 2013 5:55 PM (in response to Nathan Jones2)

    Nathan,

     

    I believe what you are looking at there is two instances of the File > Open version of a Finder window. Note in the upper left of each window there is a pair of buttons: iCloud and On My Mac.

     

    Jerry

  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:04 PM (in response to Jerrold Green1)

    Hi Jerry,

     

    For clarification, yes I'm looking at the two images attached by VikingOSX.

     

    I'm definitely not seeing this view (TextEdit), so I can't seem to access the iCloud files in any way. As mentioned, they are visible via System Preferences/iCLoud, it is a shame I cannot double click them from there!

  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,125 points)
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    Feb 27, 2013 9:22 AM (in response to Nathan Jones2)

    Nathan,

     

    I was clear on what you were commenting on. I wanted you to know how Viking OSX got them to the screen; File > Open...

     

    Jerry

  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:35 PM (in response to Jerrold Green1)

    I don't follow… I don't see that screen, or an iCloud/On my Mac option. Does it have to be switched on somewhere?

  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,125 points)
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    Feb 28, 2013 6:18 PM (in response to Nathan Jones2)

    In System Preferences, iCloud, you do need to turn on Documents and Data.

     

    Jerry

  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Mar 1, 2013 3:14 AM (in response to Jerrold Green1)

    That is on already. As mentioned, I can see the documents in System/Preferences/iCloud, just not access them in any way! It is a poorly thought out service, iCloud - in features, functionality, and clearly, usgae.

  • contrid Calculating status...
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    Apr 10, 2013 2:19 AM (in response to VikingOSX)

    This was useful, thank you.

     

    It is a bit confusing how it works but I guess one has to keep in mind what the purpose of the iCloud is. It is to access the same documents from multiple devices over the cloud.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (27,230 points)
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    Apr 10, 2013 2:47 AM (in response to contrid)

    Except it doesn't even manage to get it right between icloud.com and Address Book, Calendar etc on the Mac let alone with iDevices.

     

    I am running both OSX 10.6.8 and OSX 10.8.3 on my iMac with iOS 6.1.3 on my iPod Touch.

     

    Everything is checked on in the iCloud settings where those are available, in iOS, OSX 10.8 and in iCloud.com on my OSX 10.6.8 system.

     

    I either get no synchonisation or a duplication of events. Apple Store Events which need to be clumsily downloaded from the website, double clicked on and hopefully added to Calendar, only randomly appear and rarely get announced.

     

    Frankly it is erratic, obscure and totally unreliable as well as being a huge waste of my time.

     

    If I follow the iTunes instructions as well as the iCloud.com instructions generally nothing happens, then randomly a few events might appear belatedly at some later time, often after the event they were supposed to announce.

     

    Most frustratingly I can't sync my Address Book/Contacts so have to manually include all the contact info in all my individual devices and systems.

     

    I tried getting advice from the Apple Store as an aside to other issues, but they seem to have less of a clue than I do.

     

    Apple is running on hype when it is claiming "it just happens".

     

    If I could only replace all of Apple's dodgy utilities with something that does work.

     

    I might have to investigate what Google+ can do for me.

     

    Peter

  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
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    Apr 10, 2013 6:54 AM (in response to contrid)

    To be fair, the iDisk method was much better as you knew where the file was.

     

    iCloud does not allow user 'flow' control of synchonisation. Neither does it have roll back when it (invariably does) goes wrong.

     

    The loss of keychains and Dashboard widgets (copared with MobileMe) meant it took over three days to set up a new Mac, as opposed to less than 20 minutes.

     

    It is a clear lack of understanding of purpose from Apple. We don't need technology that is mysterious, but transparent. iCloud is overly complicated as it (seems to be designed to) deliberately misinterprets user intention, and forces the user to work a certain way (whcih is often innapropriate to the task).

     

    I still can't work out how to save a file to the iCloud. I have followed all the instructions from here, and Apple Support staff, but even they are perplexed as to why I do not have settings that they see in screengrabs.

     

    Can we have an iDisk back please? It was easier and less boring.

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