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Sound stuttering after Mountain Lion install

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  • bricolosapristi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 9:51 PM (in response to Leslie Bell)

    Funny. That's the ultimate proof that i was right when i switched to PC: if it's impossible to upgrade your Mac system without a risk, if the best way to use your computer is to keep it without any update, what's the point? What about the alpha, beta and RC's tests? Does it mean that, in fact, everyone is a perpetual beta tester without knowing it? Really expensive for so much risks, isn't it?

    It's exactly the same politic as Microsoft though: you can upgade, but if it doesn't work, you can't go back to stability ;-). I'm still confused and sad by what i read here, deeply disapointed to have to buy a PC for my professionnal stuffs because my so old fellow Apple hasn't grown in the good way.

  • evan217 Calculating status...
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    Feb 25, 2013 3:12 PM (in response to bricolosapristi)

    I was having these same issues--crackling sound (in iTunes, Youtube, Rdio.app, etc.)--freezing mouse--etc.


    "killall java" fixed it for me. However, I need Java. There seems to be something wrong with the kernel thread scheduler in Mountain Lion. Multithreaded or memory-hungry apps don't get preempted by realtime apps.

  • MauBro Calculating status...
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    Mar 1, 2013 5:05 AM (in response to tttxx)

    Well, that video shows the problems in a nutshell. It's a shame that after almost 8 months they still havent released a fix for such a crucial component to the general public.

     

    I actually was convinced 12D68 would be the last beta before GM, so I decided to install a fresh copy of ML myself so I'd be able to update to 10.8.3 right away during release and have the system ready for the Sim City release on March 5th.Turns out they released yet another beta (12D74) a couple of hours ago.

     

    Guess i'll have to switch time machine off again and go back to SL for a couple more weeks if they havent released the GM by March 5th.

     

    I have to hand it to apple, they sure know how to $*&# people off

  • rmbpfan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 4, 2013 10:53 AM (in response to Leslie Bell)

    I hear Snow Leopard is good for audio unless you have spent over 3000 EUR on a retina mbp which doesn't run SL..Do not buy this machine for pro audio use

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 10:11 AM (in response to rmbpfan)

    rmbpfan wrote:

     

    I hear Snow Leopard is good for audio unless you have spent over 3000 EUR on a retina mbp which doesn't run SL..Do not buy this machine for pro audio use

    Last sentence is really funny.

     

    We run a professional recording studio and just swapped our Nehalem 16 Core WITH ProtoolsHD|3 with ONE rMBP that barely reaches 30% of where the other system would max out !!!

     

    We replaced a $30,000 ProtoolsHD Sytem with a $3000 rMBP and it was for the BETTER and SMOOTHER...

     

    So you can imagine that your last statement really made me laugh my A off

  • BarrettF77 Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 10:17 AM (in response to Studio Engineer)

    Studio, I think he was meaning those machines affected by the audio stutter aren't good for professional use.  

     

    Apple executive relations reached out to me again this week trying to calm the matter.  It was ironic considering I gave them time to resolve the matter, now it's in another party's hands.  I take revenue and business losses seriously, even though apple seems content to sit idle or delete posts on here with regularity.   But their stock prices, product sales forecasts, and other indicators seem to show Google is getting a big leg up on Apple.  You have to love a little friendly competition.

  • kallisti Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 10:20 AM (in response to Studio Engineer)

    Studio Engineer wrote:

     

    rmbpfan wrote:

     

    I hear Snow Leopard is good for audio unless you have spent over 3000 EUR on a retina mbp which doesn't run SL..Do not buy this machine for pro audio use

    Last sentence is really funny.

     

    We run a professional recording studio and just swapped our Nehalem 16 Core WITH ProtoolsHD|3 with ONE rMBP that barely reaches 30% of where the other system would max out !!!

     

    We replaced a $30,000 ProtoolsHD Sytem with a $3000 rMBP and it was for the BETTER and SMOOTHER...

     

    So you can imagine that your last statement really made me laugh my A off

    which interface(s) are you using?  I've been wondering what people with Thunderbolt/USB3 are having success with before I switch over.   I've just about had enough of FW800

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 11:06 AM (in response to BarrettF77)

    BarrettF77 wrote:

     

    Studio, I think he was meaning those machines affected by the audio stutter aren't good for professional use.  

     

    Apple executive relations reached out to me again this week trying to calm the matter.  It was ironic considering I gave them time to resolve the matter, now it's in another party's hands.  I take revenue and business losses seriously, even though apple seems content to sit idle or delete posts on here with regularity.   But their stock prices, product sales forecasts, and other indicators seem to show Google is getting a big leg up on Apple.  You have to love a little friendly competition.

    The Retina has OTHER problems which I would love for apple to fix... Like Bluetooth and WLAN not being able to run concurrently unless one has a dual band router & Dead Pixels, Etc etc etc. But Performance wise thing is the best CPU has ever brought about. And for audio it is fantastic. And since it the rMPR literally pays out bills and we do 24 track-simul. recording with 24 mics and NO problems.. I found that guy's last sentence hilarious...

     

    Competitions is great and I embrace that.... Apple seriously need to step up their game since Mr. Jobs left, prematurely. The guy currently in the driving seat over there on infinite loop has a TOUGH job trying to walk in Job's footsteps. Last video conference was a disgrace... No one on this planet can copy SJ.... TC tries and fails.. He needs to be himself !

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 11:05 AM (in response to kallisti)

    kallisti wrote:

     

    which interface(s) are you using?  I've been wondering what people with Thunderbolt/USB3 are having success with before I switch over.   I've just about had enough of FW800

    We use a mix... We have two 4 Rosetta 800 doing all the conversion. The they go digitally into a few RME Fireface 800s... The RME Converters (on this model suck) but its flexibility is grand and it does no conversion. Works a charm. The RMEs are connected via Thunderbolt to FW800 adapters.

  • Leslie Bell Level 2 Level 2 (340 points)

    Studio Engineer wrote:

     

    Last sentence is really funny.

     

    We run a professional recording studio and just swapped our Nehalem 16 Core WITH ProtoolsHD|3 with ONE rMBP that barely reaches 30% of where the other system would max out !!!

     

    We replaced a $30,000 ProtoolsHD Sytem with a $3000 rMBP and it was for the BETTER and SMOOTHER...

     

    So you can imagine that your last statement really made me laugh my A off

     

    Name of your studio, if you would, please? It would be well worth booking an hour of time to see such a screaming system in action.

     

    Perhaps you could make a youtube video for Apple?

  • rmbpfan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 7, 2013 10:34 AM (in response to Leslie Bell)

    CPU wise i have no complaints. But stability wise I have heard Snow Leopard does a better job for audio, but I can be mistaken afterall I have been experencing clicks and pops, when adding removing devices etc in ableton, but after talking to support it seems to be 'normal' behavior for live, so if you would do a live set you would not be able to add/remove channels enable/disable devices, you would need a standard template with enough channels and all your effects/processing in place to prevent audible clicks and nasty spikes during playback..

     

    I'm mostly using an A&H Xone 2D which had trouble running on ML at first so I figured it was OS related..

     

    Anyway I was a 'little annoyed' that after buying the rmbp it apeared unreliable for live performance.. I hope it will behave better now..

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Mar 7, 2013 11:34 AM (in response to Leslie Bell)

    Leslie Bell wrote:

     

    Studio Engineer wrote:

     

    Last sentence is really funny.

     

    We run a professional recording studio and just swapped our Nehalem 16 Core WITH ProtoolsHD|3 with ONE rMBP that barely reaches 30% of where the other system would max out !!!

     

    We replaced a $30,000 ProtoolsHD Sytem with a $3000 rMBP and it was for the BETTER and SMOOTHER...

     

    So you can imagine that your last statement really made me laugh my A off

     

    Name of your studio, if you would, please? It would be well worth booking an hour of time to see such a screaming system in action.

     

    Perhaps you could make a youtube video for Apple?

     

    Look, you NEED to read and engage conversation on dedicated fora. There you will find many who has done what we have... This aint no rocket science, Mr. This is professional use of a professional device. You dont get THAT out a the box. You need experimenting (Which a pro facility pays for) to get a system running smooth. Experiments reaching beyond THAT of a youtube video. What is it with folks nowadays... Thinking they could gain 20 years of knowhow by dialing in to youtube. HA.

     

    If you want YOUR device to spit fire... You will have to get down and dirty with it.

  • Leslie Bell Level 2 Level 2 (340 points)

    Studio Engineer wrote:

     

    Leslie Bell wrote:

     

    Studio Engineer wrote:

     

    Last sentence is really funny.

     

    We run a professional recording studio and just swapped our Nehalem 16 Core WITH ProtoolsHD|3 with ONE rMBP that barely reaches 30% of where the other system would max out !!!

     

    We replaced a $30,000 ProtoolsHD Sytem with a $3000 rMBP and it was for the BETTER and SMOOTHER...

     

    So you can imagine that your last statement really made me laugh my A off

     

    Name of your studio, if you would, please? It would be well worth booking an hour of time to see such a screaming system in action.

     

    Perhaps you could make a youtube video for Apple?

     

    Look, you NEED to read and engage conversation on dedicated fora. There you will find many who has done what we have... This aint no rocket science, Mr. This is professional use of a professional device. You dont get THAT out a the box. You need experimenting (Which a pro facility pays for) to get a system running smooth. Experiments reaching beyond THAT of a youtube video. What is it with folks nowadays... Thinking they could gain 20 years of knowhow by dialing in to youtube. HA.

     

    If you want YOUR device to spit fire... You will have to get down and dirty with it.

     

    Nice sidestep. Guess you don't want the business.

     

    Or can't deliver.

  • Studio Engineer Level 2 Level 2 (445 points)
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    Mar 7, 2013 7:39 PM (in response to Leslie Bell)

    What business.... In my world you get pay for what you do. Wire $1000 to my paypal account and I'll make you a youtube video that will show the rMBP recording 48 Tracks simultaneously to the SSD System drive, while having two D-verbs instantiated on each along with a few compressors and EQs, just to make it sweat beyond 40%.

     

    But I can save you the greens. Just try it yourself. If you do the search on the web, instead of acting the fool here, you will find many backing up this CRAZY claim of mine... What you wont find is anyone revealing the days of setting up the device to do so... It aint in NO manual. It is in the upper region of your body.... right behind your eyes... And I believe it is referred to as a brain...

     

    I'm off this thread... But I sincerely hope that you will find your way and that it leads you to more serious sources than youtube.

     

    Lynda.com is a pretty good source for novice to intermediate learning.

     

     

     

     

    PS --- To those having those stutter problems... Start by checking your console for "sandboxd" messages. Those cause havoc to the system. There are plenty of sources causing those. Search google for which files to delete and how to alter what is considered "to be sandboxed" by the OS.

    In many cases a reboot into safe-boot, followed by a normal boot will alleviate the problems for a little while. I've been told that 10.8.3 is going to deal with this problem. So lets hope for the best.

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