9 Replies Latest reply: Mar 12, 2013 2:56 PM by chorleyman
Noah J Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Quick question:

 

I have a third-party software plugin, a keyboard, and Logic Pro.

I want the software plugin to recognize my keyboard's MIDI messages, process the messages, and then send to Logic Pro.

Instead, it is doing that, but also Logic Pro recognizes the raw, unprocessed messages, so the end result is that I get two different notes from one key being presse. Ick.

 

How can I stop Logic Pro from recognizing the unprocessed MIDI information?

 

Thanks!


Logic Pro, Mac OS X (10.6)
  • 1. Re: Signal Flow
    Eriksimon Level 6 Level 6 (10,835 points)

    A software plugin in Logic Pro cannot receive messages that have not been routed into Logic Pro first, so your question does not quite make sense to me. Unless you mean to say that you have some sort of standalone application that can receive and pass thru MIDI.

    Then it would help if you could NAME that software.

    I don't know what you mean by "RAW', there's no such thing as 'raw' midi events, midi events are midi events. They're not raw, or well done, or cooked in any way.

  • 2. Re: Signal Flow
    GTBannah Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Take your tongue from your cheek!

  • 3. Re: Signal Flow
    GTBannah Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Did you insert the plug-in onto an instrument track in Logic?

     

    What kind of proessing is the plug-in doing to the MIDI messages?

  • 4. Re: Signal Flow
    Noah J Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The plug-in is H-Pi Instruments' Custom Scale Editor. It tunes the notes to microtones.

    My problem is that the untuned notes and the microtones are both being played by Logic.

     

    Do you mean the type of track called "Software Instrument"? If so, yes. I have also tried the other two types, Audio and External Instrument.

     

    Thanks

  • 5. Re: Signal Flow
    The Art Of Sound Level 5 Level 5 (6,535 points)

    H-Pi Instruments' Custom Scale Editor is not a software plugin.... (An important fact )

     

    Its a stand alone app.. that is intended to be used as a stand alone program using it's own built in synth.

     

    You can then export your settings to something like Kontakt for example, which can handle microtonal scales...

  • 6. Re: Signal Flow
    Noah J Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for the clarification. My mistake, sorry.

     

    CSE has an option, "CSE to External App", the External App being Logic Pro, and it properly functions as such.

     

    Regardless, is it possible to silence my keyboard in Logic, but keep the CSE notes?

  • 7. Re: Signal Flow
    The Art Of Sound Level 5 Level 5 (6,535 points)

    So, if I understand what you are doing....

     

    You have a midi keyboard that is sending midi data to the CSE App which in turn is then sending its midi data to Logic and you are hearing the midi data via a software instrument track and therefore an AU Software Plugin, in Logic? (and not any sound being generated by your keyboard, yes?)

     

    If this is the case, then one must assume that CSE has a facility (Under the CSE menu item Midi/Live Input I believe) by which you can change the midi channel on which it sends the midi data out... and then in Logic you could set Logic up in the track inspector.. to only 'hear'/receive the incoming data on that channel...and not the midi channel that the keyboard itself, is sending on.

  • 8. Re: Signal Flow
    The Art Of Sound Level 5 Level 5 (6,535 points)

    Further reading of the manual for CSE reveals that you are using virtual midi ports that CSE creates...

     

    I suspect you have the Track Midi Inputs set up to recieve data on all ports and not just the virtual ones.. so you could look further into that if the Midi channel trick doesn't resolve the issue for you..

     

    Finally, not sure why the programmer didn't simply provide a method of turning off Midi Thru in his program... to resolve this problem but I checked and double checked the manual and do not see that facility in there... nor any mention of it so I assume he didn't include it.

  • 9. Re: Signal Flow
    chorleyman Level 4 Level 4 (1,415 points)

    The Art Of Sound wrote:

     

    not sure why the programmer didn't simply provide a method of turning off Midi Thru in his program... to resolve this problem but I checked and double checked the manual and do not see that facility in there... nor any mention of it so I assume he didn't include it.

     

    That's what I couldn't understand in the previous thread - there is a bit of a MIDI management option there, but, without sitting in front of it and trying stuff, I'm not sure of any definitve way forward with that. It might be a different experience with the hardware as well, I dunno.