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Michael Spencer Level 2 Level 2 (255 points)
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Mar 9, 2013 1:01 PM

I have an Airport Extreme. It is connected to an Airport Express via ethernet.


I want to extend the wireless network so that walking between the two devices will be invisible to an iphone.


Is this possible while still using the Ethernet port on the Express for a TiVo DVR that sits right next to the Express? I've tried it but am not having much success. Perhaps it's just impossible?


I also have a small Linksys switch that could be used: the Ethernet back to the Extreme would be plugged into the switch, while the Express and TiVo are also on the switch. But this configuration doesn't work wither. So, I am thinking that what I want to do is just plain impossible?

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion, 24G ram, Aperture 3.3, iMac i7
  • Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (75,470 points)
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    Mar 9, 2013 1:44 PM (in response to Michael Spencer)
    I want to extend the wireless network so that walking between the two devices will be invisible to an iphone.


    Unfortunately, iOS devices like the iPhone and iPad do not work well when there are more than one wireless access point that they can connect to.


    For example, I have an AirPort Extreme in my office and an AirPort Express in the den. Both devices are connected using Ethernet, use the same wireless network name, same wireless security and same password.


    I can "walk" my Mac laptop from one area to another and it will will automatically switch from one access point to another as soon as it is closer to the other access point.  By contrast, if I walk my iPhone from one area to another, the iPhone will stay connected to the original access point....even if it moves very close to another access point.


    I can usually get the iPhone to switch, but only by turning "off" the Wi-Fi on the iPhone and then turning it back "on". That is a nature of the beast with the iOS operating system, I am afraid.


    I just did this test again with an iPad and it behaves just like the iPhone.

  • Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (75,470 points)
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    Mar 10, 2013 11:14 AM (in response to Michael Spencer)

    Let's start over.


    1) Do you have a "square" version of the AirPort Extreme, or the older "round" version? Is this your "main" router?


    2) What version of the AirPort Express do you have? The "new" version of the Express looks like a miniature version of the "square" AirPort Extreme. Otherwise, look for a Model No on the side of he Express and post back with info


    3) What operating system are you using on the PC or Mac that is being used to configure the AirPort routers? If you have a Mac, and do not know which operating system you are using, click the Apple icon in the upper left corner of the screen, then click About This Mac. Post with with the OS X version number that you see there.


    4) You have an Ethernet cable connecting from one of the LAN <-> ports on the AirPort Extreme to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Express, correct?

  • Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (75,470 points)
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    Mar 10, 2013 3:34 PM (in response to Michael Spencer)

    Thanks for the info.


    The first thing to do is confirm that the Ethernet cable to the house is working. To test, simply connect a laptop computer at the end of the Ethernet cable in the house. Turn off wireless on the laptop and check to make sure that you can get an Internet connection this way.


    If you can, you know the Ethernet cable is working correctly. If you cannot, then do not proceed any further until you have corrected the problem.


    When you have verified that the Ethernet cable is working, you can disconnect the Ethernet cable from the laptop.


    With the AirPort Express powered on, hold in the reset button on the back of the device for 7-8 seconds and release. Allow a full minute for the Express to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.


    Connect the Ethernet cable to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Express


    Now return to the office for the setup using your computer in the office.


    Click the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen and wait a few seconds for a listing of New AirPort Base Station to appear. Just below that, click on AirPort Express



    New AirPort Base Station.png



    AirPort Setup will open automatically and take a minute to analyze the network and then announce that the Express will be configured to "extend" your network.


    Enter a device name for the Express and click Next


    AirPort Setup will take a another minute to configure everything. When you see the message of Set Up Complete, click Done.


    The Express is now broadcasting a wireless signal with the same name and password as the office network...and...the LAN <-> port on the Express will be enabled.


    Close AirPort Setup


    Test in the house to check the wireless and Ethernet signal for proper operation.


    If you want to assign a different name to the AirPort Express wireless signal......


    Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility

    Click on the AirPort Express icon

    Click the Wireless tab at the top of the window

    Edit the Wireless Network Name as you wish

    Edit the Wireless Password if you want to use another password for the Express wireless in the house

    Verify the Password

    Click Update to save the new settings and wait 30 seconds for the Express to restart to a green light



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    If you need more Ethernet connections at the location of the AirPort Express, you can connect a 5-port, 8-port etc Ethernet switch to the LAN <-> port on the Express.

  • Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (75,470 points)
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    Mar 11, 2013 5:57 PM (in response to Michael Spencer)

    Any progress there?


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