I want to extend the wireless network so that walking between the two devices will be invisible to an iphone.
Unfortunately, iOS devices like the iPhone and iPad do not work well when there are more than one wireless access point that they can connect to.
For example, I have an AirPort Extreme in my office and an AirPort Express in the den. Both devices are connected using Ethernet, use the same wireless network name, same wireless security and same password.
I can "walk" my Mac laptop from one area to another and it will will automatically switch from one access point to another as soon as it is closer to the other access point. By contrast, if I walk my iPhone from one area to another, the iPhone will stay connected to the original access point....even if it moves very close to another access point.
I can usually get the iPhone to switch, but only by turning "off" the Wi-Fi on the iPhone and then turning it back "on". That is a nature of the beast with the iOS operating system, I am afraid.
I just did this test again with an iPad and it behaves just like the iPhone.
(I didn't realize the malformed subject to this thread, darn it! I hope it gets some replies!).
Thanks, Bob, that's my experience as well. I've noticed in my research the recommendation that the Express have the exact network name and password and figured that this was so that devices could pass between them, sorta like a cell tower. If only.
In any event, what I'm really looking for are directions on making the Express extend the wireless network, and an explanation for why a device connected to the Express via Ethernet does not see the network.
I could put the adjacent TiVo on wireless I suppose, but that means buying another device, and darn it there must be a reason for what I am doing wrong.
Let's start over.
1) Do you have a "square" version of the AirPort Extreme, or the older "round" version? Is this your "main" router?
2) What version of the AirPort Express do you have? The "new" version of the Express looks like a miniature version of the "square" AirPort Extreme. Otherwise, look for a Model No on the side of he Express and post back with info
3) What operating system are you using on the PC or Mac that is being used to configure the AirPort routers? If you have a Mac, and do not know which operating system you are using, click the Apple icon in the upper left corner of the screen, then click About This Mac. Post with with the OS X version number that you see there.
4) You have an Ethernet cable connecting from one of the LAN <-> ports on the AirPort Extreme to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Express, correct?
Setup: The Extreme is in my office, which is a separate building from the house. Sort of like a guest house. The Extreme is functioning perfectly. They are about 100' apart.
The Express is in the house. The two are connected (see #4).
Answers to questions:
1: I have the latest and greatest Extreme, and it's square. ish. About the size of the original Apple TV. Purchased in the last few months. Firmware updated.
2. The Express, too, was purchased in the past 60 days.
3: OS is Lion, also the latest. Also have Airport Utility on iPhone and iPad.
4: The Extreme is connected to the Comcast modem. There are several Ethernet ports on the Extreme. On one of these I have a cat5 that runs about 100' and is connected to the Express, where it plugs into the WAN port, yes.
I have both v5 and v6 of Airport Utiity.
1. I want the Express to have functioning wifi and a functioning Ethernet port if possible. I think the wifi network created by the Express should be distinct from the Extreme so the TiVos I don't suppose it really matters if the in the house won't get confused and try to connect to the weaker Extreme signal.
2. I want to plug a TiVo into the LAN port of the Express, if possible, and if somehow the Lan port is disabled in this setup I can use wireless for the Tivo.
Pretty simple set-up?
Thanks for the info.
The first thing to do is confirm that the Ethernet cable to the house is working. To test, simply connect a laptop computer at the end of the Ethernet cable in the house. Turn off wireless on the laptop and check to make sure that you can get an Internet connection this way.
If you can, you know the Ethernet cable is working correctly. If you cannot, then do not proceed any further until you have corrected the problem.
When you have verified that the Ethernet cable is working, you can disconnect the Ethernet cable from the laptop.
With the AirPort Express powered on, hold in the reset button on the back of the device for 7-8 seconds and release. Allow a full minute for the Express to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.
Connect the Ethernet cable to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Express
Now return to the office for the setup using your computer in the office.
Click the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen and wait a few seconds for a listing of New AirPort Base Station to appear. Just below that, click on AirPort Express
AirPort Setup will open automatically and take a minute to analyze the network and then announce that the Express will be configured to "extend" your network.
Enter a device name for the Express and click Next
AirPort Setup will take a another minute to configure everything. When you see the message of Set Up Complete, click Done.
The Express is now broadcasting a wireless signal with the same name and password as the office network...and...the LAN <-> port on the Express will be enabled.
Close AirPort Setup
Test in the house to check the wireless and Ethernet signal for proper operation.
If you want to assign a different name to the AirPort Express wireless signal......
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the AirPort Express icon
Click the Wireless tab at the top of the window
Edit the Wireless Network Name as you wish
Edit the Wireless Password if you want to use another password for the Express wireless in the house
Verify the Password
Click Update to save the new settings and wait 30 seconds for the Express to restart to a green light
If you need more Ethernet connections at the location of the AirPort Express, you can connect a 5-port, 8-port etc Ethernet switch to the LAN <-> port on the Express.
Well, that was dead simple. I never ever saw reference to doing this the way you instructed, Bob, which is too bad, since it was easy in an Apple-sort of way.
Everything works perfectly and as expected. Tivo is online, and the two boxes talk to each other. Both units are able to see the home network, too, including an external drive on the Extreme that carries movies. Also, the AppleTV works as expected.
And, as expected, iOS can't automatically switch from one Wifi source to the other in the manner of cell phones. Dissapointing, and a huge useability issue, but expected.