Currently Being ModeratedFeb 27, 2013 3:47 AM (in response to Rev Mitch)
The only suffizient fix for this issue is for Apple to provide the proper functionality in the application: it must be the users choice which criteria is used to sort the pictures. full stop. no other option.
I have been working with iPhoto for a long time, like it, use it daily on an iMac, two iPads, two iPhones. We just returned from holidays with 2700 pictures from three cameras. Put them into events. I am NOT willing to touch these photos file by file to make changes for sorting.... the bad ones (photos) are deleted, location is assigned. That's it.
An application has to consistently and reliably do what the user expects (and what it did before). end of discussion.
Apple - over to you.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 2, 2013 3:39 PM (in response to Rev Mitch)
This is the response I received from Apple. Too bad that they cannot just fix the problem! Has anyone done these steps? Thanks, L
1) For photos within Albums:
Engineering is aware of reports that photos within albums that are sorted by date will not retain their order when synced to an iOS device. There is a workaround for this which is to sort the album in iPhoto on the Mac manually. Specific steps I'd recommend would be:
- Open the album in iPhoto on the Mac
- Select View > Sort Photos > By Date (Ascending or Descending as desired)
The album will now be sorted by Date. Next:
- Select the first photo in the album so it gets a border around it
- Drag this photo to the space after the 2nd photo in the same album
All we've done is swap the order of the first two photos in the album. However, now if View > Sort Photos is selected the check mark will be next to Manually instead of Date. Manually sorted albums do not exhibit this behavior. Next:
- Select the current first photo in the album so it gets a border around it
- Drag this photo to the space after the 2nd photo in the same album
All we've done is swap the order of the first two photos in the album again so that the order of the photos is back to the way it looked when View > Sort Photos > By Date was selected but View > Sort Photos will actually still show Manually. Repeat these steps for each album to workaround the current behavior.
2) For photos in Events:
Engineering is aware of reports that photos within events do not retain their sorting either in the iPhoto window or when synced to an iOS device. There are no identified workarounds for this behavior currently other than organizing photos using albums and if necessary work around around the sort by date behavior as described above.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 4, 2013 12:46 AM (in response to lauriew)
I wrote the same here in november:
Excuse me my English, I only take a internet translator.
Had the same problem,
tried second level Apple support. After their conversation with many tests, we came to the conclusion:
-The problem is not iOS error (not only in my iPhone 5 with a 6.01 and iPad 2 with 6.01 but also with iPhone 3 g with 4.2.1 it occurs) or iPhoto error but an iTunes bug.
-Also occurs when some photos that were made with a single camera. But mostly for photos with two different cameras.
-When you synchronize it with iPhotos events it can at occur not avoid, because the events are sorted always date and time.
-Workaround if you use Mac and iPhoto. No idea with Windows syncing photos in a directory:
Create albums, for example from the event in the library to create an album.
Then there is the album as well as the events sorted by date.
Now switch to manual sorting, e.g. through moving image on position 1 to position 2 and moving then back on position 1.
This is the sorting (iPhoto menu, photos sort) set to manual.
You can also just above the menu in iPhoto, sort photos "by date" switch to "Manual" but sometimes the pictures are then sorted totally messed up.
So rather on display, sort photos by date or time so set and then move a picture in this album to a position immediately back slide and. This will be converted to manual sorting.
Then, the photos in iOS devices are displayed correctly.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 11, 2013 6:11 AM (in response to Turgi)
any workaround for smart album photo sort issue?
I use smart album in order to retrieve the photo within each month but at iPhone the order is still not the same. While follow above method i could successfully display same order as normal album.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 18, 2013 6:19 PM (in response to John Lau)
I could only confirmed that using iPhoto for iOS can see the correct order even for Smart Album created at iPhoto for Mac OSX, however, there's still no way to view the correct order at iPhone at native Photo app.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 4, 2013 10:50 AM (in response to John Lau)
And there's also a difference in sort order between iPhoto and the AppleTV. Sometimes I manage to get the order right, sometimes not. I'm puzzled what makes the difference.
Today I discovered that a series of photos which were sorted wrong on iPhoto were displayed in the right order on the Apple TV. Go figure.
The best option would be if there was a possibility to sort the photos on iOS and the Apple TV. Then there is no dependence on how things work in iPhoto. And you could also use a directory instead of iPhoto to store and show your photos.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 4, 2013 11:47 AM (in response to Rev Mitch)
Thanks for all the hard work guys, I have 10k pics in about 400 events and just couldn't figure why the iphine and ipad were messed up. I don't use Keywords so I used that 'workaround' and that has fixed most of my issues - does seem a ridiculous solution. My smart ablums - just annual 'best of's' are still messed up, anyone know how to fix that? Also, I've noticed problems with the facebook uploader - anyone else had that? Are these two related? Cheers
Currently Being ModeratedApr 8, 2013 8:34 AM (in response to Rev Mitch)
Just a suggestion.. Win7 PC + iPad iOS6.
For those who wants alphabetic order, change the DateLastModified to all the same. For those who wants to sort by date taken, use
"Copy EXIF date" to "Modified".
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 12:53 AM (in response to Rev Mitch)
Had this encounter that, After syncing 4000+ photos in 10+ folders, only 5 albums appear in the iPad! Isn't it supposed to be 1 album for each folder? All the photos were available in "Photos" but there is no corresponding album enteries under "Album".
In itunes, there were a list of 10+ folders selected (1 tick beside each folder so approx 10 ticks).
What is the problem with iOS and itunes..
getting unpredictable and unreliable..
Currently Being ModeratedMay 5, 2013 9:09 AM (in response to Rev Mitch)
The issue seems to be fixed for me. I'm not sure which Apple update brought the fix.
But without doing anything all my photos appear in the right order on my iOS devices.
I just added a few pictures to iPhoto Smart Albums, synced my devices and noticed that all other albums are fine now.
Anyone else noticed this?
Anyway thanks to Apple!
Currently Being ModeratedMay 5, 2013 10:24 PM (in response to Rev Mitch)
It's also fixed on the Apple TV (where there was no recent update).
I have iOS 6.1.4 on iPhone and iOS 6.1.3 on iPad but I don't think it was fixed by an iOS update.
Maybe iPhoto 9.4.3 or iTunes 11.0.2 did the trick...