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  • 45. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    geedubya wrote:

     

    OK, so TM/OSX has kept the orginal backup but renamed it so it's not the same as the name I used for the new drive (which is the same as the original).

     

    Confirmed.  That's exactly what it did.

     

    I backed-up a volume named M.Misc, containing a folder named MAN pages at 6:26 pm:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-03-12 at 7.20.08 PM.png

     

     

    Then ejected that partition, renamed another one to M. Misc, copied both the original folder and one named Time Machine to it, and ran a backup at 6:28 pm:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-03-12 at 7.18.34 PM.png

     

    Just as you saw, the original backups still appear, but the name had a "1" appended.

     

    And you can view the contents from the most recent backup, even though the parition wasn't actually backed-up that time.

     

    Now I gotta revise the page on my website . . .

     

    I learn something every day! 

  • 46. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,740 points)

    I'm wondering if deleting the '_unknown' entry will work in the same way as you describe, or is that something else entirely?

     

    I don't know, because I have no 10.6 system to test. Try it.

  • 47. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    geedubya,

     

    I just posted a revised version of #E3 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting

     

    I'm rather punchy from trying to get the wording and samples right for all the various conditions.   I'd appreciate it greatly if you'd take a look and see if it makes sense to you.

     

    Thanks,

    Jim

  • 48. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    geedubya Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey Jim

     

    That looks good apart from a couple of things.

     

    First, the colours of the boxes you mention don't match up.

     

    Second, I think the wording of the replacement scenario could be clearer - see my suggestions below:

     

    To see the backups of a volume that’s been replaced:

    1. If the replacement drive has a different name (even slightly different) it will appear just as expected;  the old one will appear as in the green box above.
    2. If the replacement has been given the identical name of the drive it is replacing, Time Machine will add a "1" to the name, as per the second screenshot below:
  • 49. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    geedubya wrote:

     

    Hey Jim

     

    That looks good apart from a couple of things.

     

    First, the colours of the boxes you mention don't match up.

    Huh?  The first one -- disk no longer connected -- says green, and looks green on my system.

     

    The second -- disk erased or replaced -- says blue, and looks blue to me.

     

    The third is tan

     

    Are you seeing something different?

     

     

     

    Second, I think the wording of the replacement scenario could be clearer - see my suggestions below:

     

    To see the backups of a volume that’s been replaced:

    1. If the replacement drive has a different name (even slightly different) it will appear just as expected;  the old one will appear as in the green box above.
    2. If the replacement has been given the identical name of the drive it is replacing, Time Machine will add a "1" to the name, as per the second screenshot below:

     

    Ok, I revised them, but a bit differently:

     

    • If the replacement has a different name (even slightly different) it will appear just as expected, like any drive;  the old one will appear as in the green box above.

     

    • If the replacement has been given the identical name as the original, Time Machine will add a "1" to the name, as in the second sample below.

     

    Thanks!

  • 50. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    geedubya Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yup, wording is good, although I also think maybe the heading in red should mention 'erased' as well as 'replaced' as per the intro.

     

    Colours are green, white (as in the intro section above the green box) and pink.

  • 51. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    geedubya wrote:

     

    Yup, wording is good, although I also think maybe the heading in red should mention 'erased' as well as 'replaced' as per the intro.

     

    Colours are green, white (as in the intro section above the green box) and pink.

    Heading in red?   white box?   (the 4 boxes are green, light blue, tan, and pink)

     

    Start of second box:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-03-13 at 12.15.36 PM.png

     

    Is that the heading you mean?

    Is the box not blue for you?

     

    I get the same results with Safari 6.0.x and FireFox 19.0.2.

  • 52. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    geedubya Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Screen shot 2013-03-13 at 16.26.08.jpg

     

    Maybe because I'm on Safari 5.1.7 on Snow Leopard?

  • 53. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    Eeeek!  That's awful!

     

    Not only is the color wrong, but the fonts are all messed-up.  I use only web-safe fonts . . .

     

    Here's what I see with 10.6.8 and Safar 5.1.7:

     

    Screen shot 2013-03-13 at 12.47.22 PM.png

     

     

    Empty the cache, Restart Safari, try another browser, etc.  Something is very wrong.

  • 54. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    geedubya Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK, panic not, emptying the cache did it.  I had just avoided doing that recently due to the number of places I'd quickly visited without bookmarking them all ...

  • 55. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    geedubya Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Meanwhile, I backed up to my spare replacement drive to see what would happen.  I gave it a unique name and then tried 'restoring to' using the top level folders from the TM drive within TM.  With or without 'Ignore Ownership' checked it didn't work. 

     

    I got this message

    Screen shot 2013-03-13 at 15.09.21.jpg

    which was fair enough followed by this message

     

    Screen shot 2013-03-13 at 15.04.40.jpg

    at which point just the top level folders were restored.  I deleted them and emptied the trash.

     

    I then tried the same but selected the Library HD itself rather than the folders and that restored after requiring my password.  The only issue was that it obviously appears as a folder named 'Library HD' in the new drive.

     

    I deleted and trashed the lot and tried the same process all over again selecting the top level folders from Library HD in the TM window and the same happened as before.  I deleted and trashed the lot.

     

    This time when I selected Library HD itself rather than the folders and selected 'restore to', TM crashed.  It did it a couple more times so I repaired permissions on Mac HD which seemed OK and rebooted.  TM crashed again so I checked Mac HD in Disk Utility and it said it needed repairing.

    Screen shot 2013-03-13 at 15.23.46.jpg

    I booted from SL install disk and repaired the drive OK.

     

    Then tried 'restore to' from Library HD in TM and that seems to be going fine, only 2 hours to go, but is sure to result in having a folder called "Library HD' in my new drive rather than the folders being at the top level.  Which will mean having to relink some of the sample libraries and re-install some of the others.  Unless I can move all the folders up a level and delete the 'Library HD ' folder they were in.  Is that possible or would I need to find a way of moving hidden files as well?

     

    Also, I think I would need to rename the new drive maybe, so the sample libraries have the same file path as before.  Is it OK to do that?

  • 56. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    geedubya wrote:

    . . .

    Then tried 'restore to' from Library HD in TM and that seems to be going fine, only 2 hours to go, but is sure to result in having a folder called "Library HD' in my new drive rather than the folders being at the top level.

    If that's the only problem, you should be able to just move the folders out of the "Library HD" folder, to the top level of the drive and delete the "Library HD" folder.

     

    Also, I think I would need to rename the new drive maybe, so the sample libraries have the same file path as before.  Is it OK to do that?

    Sure.  Just right-click it in a Finder sidebar and select the Rename option.

     

    Message was edited by: Pondini

  • 57. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    geedubya Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ooh, that sounds too easy, I'm trying not to get excited!

  • 58. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    Yeah, I doubt we've really fixed the permissions problem. 

     

    Guess it will be a while before you know . . .

  • 59. Re: Restoring data from Time Machine to a replacement secondary drive
    geedubya Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    But should I rename it 'Library HD', the same as the original drive or is that likely to cause problems with TM?