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Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

My eMac G4, 56G, 3.3, Power, 512mgRAM, wouldn't boot yesterday.  I came here to find a solution and found this info:

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BDAqua

This helped meRe: I'm having problem at startup with my emac

Dec 23, 2012 10:34 AM (in response to filgisher)

 

One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...

PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive

Reboot, test again.

If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or some USB or Firewire device, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed.

Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.

Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...

/private/var/run/StartupItems

/Library/StartupItems

/System/Library/StartupItems

/System/Library/LaunchDaemons

/Library/LaunchDaemons

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I had run the PRAM reboot with no help.  Then I did the Safe Boot, Utility Permissions check/repair, UP check/repair Disk (just for insurance as it was not mentioned in the above instructions) and when I rebooted it came up just fine.  What a relief, however, I'd like to find out what caused the problem to begin with. 

 

I'd been having trouble with FireFox so had opened a long neglected Thunderbird Mail App and discovered I had 257 emails in my In Box.  Could this have been the problem?

 

I'm going to do the Check described in the second section of the above instructions just to see what it offers.  Any Input on the TB app is appreciated.

 

.....goldie


iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 2T 3.33GHz Intel2 4G-Ram
  • 1. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    Hi Goldie!

    Then I did the Safe Boot, Utility Permissions check/repair, UP check/repair Disk (just for insurance as it was not mentioned in the above instructions) and when I rebooted it came up just fine.

    The forst thing Safe Boot does, while the radian is spinning, is attempt a Disk Repair, so I think it did repair the Disk Directory & that was the whole problem.

    I had 257 emails in my In Box.  Could this have been the problem?

    Not directly, no.

  • 2. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Hi BD!  It's been awhile, things have been going smoothly till I hit this bump.  Time to trim the sails I guess.

     

    Perhaps this is the problem  FireFox has discontinued service for G4 Technology, they advise me to buy a new computer.  Sheesh.  I'm now scouting for a new server for my eMac. 

     

    (For some reason Safari won't boot either.)

     

    I'm looking at Cheeroke right now.  Any input?  I have Thunderbird for mail but they are Mozilla so will, no doubt, be discontinued also.  Do you know anything about Opera?

     

    Message was edited by: Goldenbill Added Safari and Opera input.

  • 3. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    Hmmm, no idea why FF or Safari doesn't work.

     

    TenFourFox is the most up to date browser for our PPCs, they even have G4 & G5 optimized versions...

     

    http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

     

    SeaMonkey seems pretty fast also, with many options...

     

    http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

     

    http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

  • 4. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    I don't know what's going on.  I got a notice that my Computer was not compatible with the new Firefox and they shut me out.  Now I'm using Firefox to access this site although they won't let me open my "hone" page,  and none of the other browsers will download to my computer.  I'll have to play around with this some more and try to get a handle on it. 

     

    Thanks for the help BD, the eMac is much better since I rebooted in Safe Mode, it's faster and it's sharper than it's been for a long time..

     

    I need a break, I'll be back later.

  • 5. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    Try putting these numbers in Network>TCP/IP>DNS Servers, for the Interface you connect with...

     

    208.67.222.222

    208.67.220.220

     

    Then Apply.

    For 10.5/10.6 Network, highlight Interface>Advanced button>DNS tab>little + icon.

  • 6. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Hi BD!  Sorry, I got sidetracked with another problem (Time Machine, which I'll get to in another thread).

     

    The DNS #s are installed but I'm still in the old set up so will shut down FF and see what comes up.  It has changed the initial access point in the Network Server Box so I guess it will go there first. ?

  • 7. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    It has changed the initial access point in the Network Server Box so I guess it will go there first. ?

    Sorry, you lost me here!???

  • 8. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    BDAqua wrote:

     

    It has changed the initial access point in the Network Server Box so I guess it will go there first. ?

    Sorry, you lost me here!???

     

    This is what I mean when I entered the Open DNL #s.

    Picture 1.JPG

    When I tried to open FF it ran about 3/4 of the way and then just sat there.

    Then I went back to This:

    Picture 2.JPG

    And it works, --slowly (compared to my iMac) and I have downloaded TenForFox  which said they may be rather slow until all the code was entered for the first time. 

     

    Making progress, I think.  Tired now, been at it all day, time for a break again.  Thanks BD.

  • 9. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    OOPs, I think you added Ports some how instead of adding DNS numbers to an existing interfce!???

     

    On Show: above, choose Network port Configurations & post a pic please.

  • 10. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    I guess I really blew it this time.  Network will not give me the box with the "show  - network status" command in it.  It only gives me the Location box.  Airport is "connected" all other choices, including Ethernet, are "not connected". 

  • 11. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    I'm not sure but it is possible that my downloading of the application "AppZapper" may be the villain in this scenario.   It didn't do as expected so I "trashed" it and then when I went into Easy Find I discovered that there were 87 downloads to various apps on my computer, mostly backups but some active.  Upon finding these downloads, I opened one of them and that activated the AppZapper back into my system and I had to do another Trash.  After some investigation I managed to trash them all and now as I am doing a new Easy Find I am finding another 52 (and counting) sites that need to be removed.  Not only are they all over the place but they are infiltrating the Moniter and writing code to all sorts of apps and they are EATING UP MY MEMORY AT AN INCREDIBLE PACE.  --They do NOT have an uninstaller app and, obviously from this rant, trashing the app is a joke.--.  I can only say, for $12.95 i have learned to investigate more deeply into the applcation I am considering downloading, I have laarned that , in a flash, an app can permiate your files, and I have learned that we may have the solutions to our problems right here on our very own Macs.    Well, I guess it was a download too,       "Easy Find".

  • 12. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,480 points)

    Open Console in Applications>Utilities & see if there are any clues or repeating messages when this happens.

  • 13. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Now that's a rabbit hole if there ever was one .   I haven't a clue as to what I'm supposed to be looking for but I've spent the last six  hours looking.  I don't know what this is worth but it seems to indicate something.

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    ---Console---

    >/Library/Logs

        >AppleFileService

            >AppleFileServiceErrorLog

     

    !!Log File Created On: 4/13/2011 16:12:32 102:3:1 GMT

    13/Apr/2011:16:46:06 -0800: Server shut down.

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    Is it possible my server was the culprit?  For a while there it was shutting down every couple of days.

     

    I must have done something right, if it wasn't the server, as it seems to be working fine now.  I'm really in a daze about it though so will let it go for now.  Perhaps I can make a log of where I go and what I do the next time something like this happens.  Those Network numbers do bother me but it it seems "it ain't broke..." so I guess I don't need to fix it.

     

    Thanks for your patience BD!  (as I stagger off the stage :-)

  • 14. Re: eMac Gray Screen Problem
    Goldenbill Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Isn't this what you told me to do?

     

    Picture 4.JPG

     

    And here's the Port Configurations:

     

    Picture 3.JPG

    Act;ually, I don't think there's a problem here.  The problem was I opened this thread on my iMac and was trying to get the information there and the set up is different, of course.  This seems to have solved the problem and I'm going to drop this very mixed up and confusing thread with "All's well that ends well".

     

    Thanks so much, again, for your patience BD.         ..........goldie

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