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  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Mar 15, 2013 9:22 PM (in response to Dennis Kulpa)

    Dennis Kulpa wrote:

     

    My Mini was shipped with Leopard installed, but the disks in the package were Tiger and a Leopard Upgrade.  BUT, they were specific to the Mini - I tried loading them on another computer (a Dual 2G Power Mac G5) and they were not recognized.  I upgraded to Snow Leopard with the SL upgrade disk that Apple sold when it came out.  The "virgin" copy of SL 10.6.3 is available from the Apple Store for $19.99

    Your Mac Mini must be Intel, as Snow Leopard will not work on a PowerPC Mac Mini.  Hence the Tiger and Leoaprd discs you were given would also only work on Intel Macs.  Hence their failure on a Dual 2G Power Mac G5 was due to the fact that this Mac is PowerPC, not necessarily because they were "Mac Mini specific."

     

    Does the Tiger disc look like this:

     

    Tiger.jpg

     

    Does the Leopard disc look like this:

     

    Leopard.jpg

     

    or do they look like this:

     

    Leopard restore.jpg

     

    Dennis Kulpa wrote:

     

    ...So I either use Boot Camp with my Win 7 64-bit Pro or I run XP under Parallels 8; either way, it looks like Mountain Lion stays on the machine.

    Maybe I am confused?  I understand that you want to make NO changes to your Mac Mini. But as to your 2011 iMac:

     

    I see three different issues in this statement and understand them to apply to your 2011 iMac:

     

    I thought you wanted to install Windows XP on your refurbished 2011 iMac (and now I understand that maybe you want your 2011 iMac it to boot into Snow Leopard)? 

     

    1.  Mountain Lion vs. Snow Leopard on your iMac:  Did you give the Apple Rep the model and serial number of that iMac?  If so, and told them that you need a replacement of the original install disc, they should offer you the Restore Disc for that model iMac, which would be Snow Leopard. 

     

    Tell them you want the original restore disc for that specific iMac and see what they offer you (it is technically not a sale; they offer the replacement disc for free with a $17.95 replacement/shipping charge).

     

    2.  Windows XP in Bootcamp on your iMac while booting Mt. Lion:  In any event, if you read the User Tip I linked ( User Tip: BootCamp - Install Windows XP & then Windows 7 ), you should be able to install Windows XP into Bootcamp on your 2011 refurbished iMac running Mt. Lion with only the Windows XP install disc and a Windows 7 upgrade disc; and

     

    3.  Windows XP in Bootcamp on your iMac even without the Snow Leopard install disc:  You can install Windows XP even without having a Snow Leopard Restore disc -- it is not needed for Windows XP.

     

    And now maybe you want to restore your iMac to boot Snow Leopard, too?

     

    Please clarify all of this for me.

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Mar 16, 2013 5:54 AM (in response to Dennis Kulpa)

    Yes, thank you for those clarifications:

     

    1.  Your Tiger disc is a machine-specific disc and cannot be used to install into any other Mac.

     

    2.  Your Leopard appears to be a "retail" version and as such is valuable if you ever want to install Leopard into any other Intel Mac that can run Leopard or if you want to sell it on eBay.

     

    3.  You must determine from others (software publisher; users forums) if your programs will run on Windows XP mode in the newer Windows 7 or 8: I have no experience here.

     

    If it were up to me, to guarantee compatibility I would either attempt to install WIndows XP into Bootcamp, from the instructions in the linked article, or use Parallels to install and run Windows XP.

     

    4.  You say you have the iMac 12,2 and according to MacTracker it originally ran 10.6.6 and then 10.6.7 Snow Leopard.  Maybe MacTracker is wrong. What size screen does your iMac have; 27"?  Someone else with better knowledge of the 2011 iMac should jump in here.

     

    5.  I think my earlier comment was misinterpreted.  I do not suggest that you downgrade to Snow Leopard for day to day purposes.  It was only a suggestion for one way to get Bootcamp to install Windows XP and then go back to Mt. Lion.  That method is labor intensive and I believe the User Tip article is a much easier method to install Windows XP on your Bootcamp, but that will work ONLY if your Mac can boot Snow Leopard.  I did mention that if your machine will boot Snow Leopard it may have some increased resale value in the future.

     

    So, in conclusion, I think you need to contact the software publishers about how well their programs will run in the XP mode in the newer Windows 7 or 8 (or read user forums) and if they have acceptable results, that is probably the easiest and best road for you to pursue on your iMac.

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Mar 16, 2013 10:31 AM (in response to Dennis Kulpa)

    Sounds like you've got it all under control, Dennis.

     

    I reviewed the User Tip on installing Windows XP and there is a problem.  It requires the Windows 7 Upgrade disc and it appears you have the complete Windows 7 install disc.  It may not work with that disc, but it looks like you are adept at "trying!"

     

    If your Windows 7 disc does not work and you have access to the Windows 7 upgrade (even without a serial number, as remember, you are tricking Bootcamp to allow the installation of XP, not 7), go ahead and try that.

     

    Good luck and keep reaching for the skies!

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Mar 21, 2013 7:03 PM (in response to Dennis Kulpa)

    Glad to hear you found your solution.

     

    And to all of those naysayers about Lion/Mt. Lion's lack of Rosetta (to run PowerPC apps) and their claim that even a PC with Windows 7/8 can run XP to this day, looks like the answer is yes, but not without Microsoft making you do much work to jump through all those hoops!

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Mar 23, 2013 11:37 AM (in response to Dennis Kulpa)

    You remember this thread better than I do, but:

     

    You can close SL back over to your iMac, but Bootcamp must be a separate partition setup by the Bootcamp assistant.

     

    There is a program, called Winclone, I think, that you can use to clone your Bootcamp partition and after a new, fresh Bootcamp partition is established on your iMac, you can then use Winclone to restore your files from one Bootcamp to the other... in theory!  I have never successfully used Winclone; but probably no harm in trying.

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,550 points)
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    Mar 23, 2013 8:58 PM (in response to Dennis Kulpa)

    Olgelthorpe seems to be the King of the cloning Snow Leopard to MacBook Pros around here (maybe iMacs, too?)...

     

    Let's see if I can find his post...

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/21503758#21503758

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/21190812#21190812

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17911433#17911433

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