8 Replies Latest reply: Apr 5, 2013 8:11 AM by MarkPek
MarkPek Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)

Hi all,

 

Just about to get my 3TB Seagate drive to move my images to referenced.  How's this for a plan:

 

(1) I want to consolidate all my originals into my Library before I move them to the new drive.  I have just a couple of thousand referenced images on an old external drive, and I want to bring them into the managed Library (on my MacBook Pro).   I guess I can go to Library > Pictures > Select All and create a smart album of referenced images and then consolidate them?  (Or can I just select all images and let Aperture figure it out?)  This will bring everything to one place for a nice easy movement off-board.

 

(2) Then I want to move all the originals from 1957-2012 to my new external drive.  I assume I can just create a smart album with those dates (or maybe just anything that's "not" 2013), select all, and Move Originals?

 

Is it that simple?  The reason for this, of course, is that I'm running out of space on a 500GB MacBook Pro.

 

Oh, also (3) is there an easy way to ensure that my Vault actually works as a healthy back-up before I try this?

 

Thank you!


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), Aperture 3.4.3, iPad 2, iPod Touch
  • 1. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,830 points)

    The plan sounds reasonable. A few points:

     

    Erase and format the new drive regardless of what it says on the label or how it behaves when you attach it to your system. This will guarantee that the format is correct and any gross errors are caught before you write any data to it. Be prepared a single pass erase on a 3tb drive will take a while, figure 24 hours.

     

    Consolidating the current referenced images is OK just make sure you have enough room on the internal drive. Figure you'll need at least 15% more space then the final images will take up. You don;t want to run out of space in the middle of this.

     

    As another way to go about this you could just relocate the referenced images from where they are now to the new location you don't have to bring them into the library before doing this.

     

    I would do the not 2013 selection, just easier and I'm lazy.

     

    The only way to ensure that a vault is good is to restore it. Given the size of the new drive you could restore to that before you start the relocation. This would also be a further test of the drive.

     

    good luck

     

    regards

  • 2. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    MarkPek Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)

    Rats, I didn't quite think this through, and now I have a small problem. 

     

    I moved 15,000 or so images from "managed" to "referenced" on to my new hard drive.  I wanted also to move all the other, older referenced images from one older hard drive to this new hard drive.  But how do I isolate those to select them?

     

    If I do a smart album of "referenced" images, it will include the 15,000 I just moved and I don't need to duplicate them onto the same HDD.  For the life of me, I can't find a way to find only the referenced images on the old HDD.  Surely, there's a way to do that, but I can't figure it out either in smart albums or in "locate originals."   Is anyone familiar with  this?   I should have moved the old referenced images FIRST -- and then I'd be done by now!

     

    Thank you for any help!

  • 3. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    MarkPek Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)

    Ah, I figured out one (roundabout) way.  I unmounted the drive that they're on, and I made a smart album of referenced images "off-line."   Surely there's a better way to do this, but I think this worked. 

  • 4. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,730 points)
      I unmounted the drive that they're on, and I made a smart album of referenced images "off-line."   Surely there's a better way to do this, but I think this worked.

     

    I was just going to suggest just that. Only create a regular album from the smart album or search to save the result or flag the images. The album will become empty once you reconnect your external drive and the images are online again.

     

    Unfortunately Aperture provides no search rule in the smart settings to search for the pathname, only to search for the filename.

  • 5. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    MarkPek Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)

    Yep.  I did that.  But then I encountered another problem!  About 25% of the way through, I got an error message that said "Error while relocating [filename].  Couldn't be moved because you don't have permission to access "02".  And "02" is the folder that Aperture created within another folder on the new hard drive.  Ugh.  I encountered this a few times and had to stop. 

     

    I think what I'm going to do now is bring the referenced images into the library as managed images and then try to get them to the HDD.  This "permission" thing is weird and unsettling.  I correctly formatted the drive and exported about 150GB of iTunes media yesterday.  

  • 6. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,730 points)

    Have you set the "Ignore ownership on this volume"  flag for your external volume? That may help.

     

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    Added: How is that drive connected to your Mac? Directly connected or is it a network volume?

  • 7. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    MarkPek Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)

    Hi Leonie,

     

    I'll see whether that box is checked (I'm not at home now).  The drive is directly connected, not a network volume.

     

    I think everything is working fine now.  I brought the referenced images (from the old HDD) into the library as managed images, then I moved all of them to the new HDD "relocating originals."

     

    It looks like all is well.  I saved about 60 GB or so in the end, and I also moved my iTunes media (about 120GB), so I've now got a lot of room on my MacBook Pro's 500GB hard drive. 

     

    I finally made the move and all is well!!

     

    Thanks for all your help, everyone!

  • 8. Re: Am about to move 20,000 images to referenced -- hold my hand!
    MarkPek Level 2 Level 2 (155 points)

    And, yes, "ignore ownership" is checked for that drive.  Thanks again!