Currently Being ModeratedMar 19, 2013 12:30 PM (in response to ufoliver2)
Pages/OSX has inbuilt color management using ColorSync, and normally just picks up on any color profiles available in images, so it is hard to interpret what you mean without actually seeing it ourselves.
Normally I would say it is because you are viewing the images as rgb inside Photoshop (screen default) and cmyk will always look flatter than that.
Do you know what color profile was used on the images? Are they from a PC?
Have you got any transparency set on the images?
Can you give us a screen snap of both the Photoshop view and Pages view?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 19, 2013 12:37 PM (in response to PeterBreis0807)
Currently Being ModeratedMar 19, 2013 12:56 PM (in response to ufoliver2)
That is only a slightly flatter image in Pages and is probably because Pages is rendering a more faithful view of the cmyk. Intense blues and greens are always hard to match in cmyk.
Photoshop works internally in rgb because that is the screen color mode, cmyk can never match the bright colors you see there. Have you calibrated your screen and what color management have you set in Photoshop?
If you are really concerned, I suggest you do something everyone has to do in commercial printing, use known color target test images, add them to a test layout and run them through the commercial Printer to check the results.
You have not said what paper stock you are using, that will have the greatest effect on the result and is something that needs image adjustment to suit.
Check if HP MagCloud has any guidance on color management. Usually though it is for Indesign and Word (a lost cause).
Currently Being ModeratedMar 19, 2013 1:09 PM (in response to PeterBreis0807)
Well, I'm not sure about what my color management is set to in photoshop, but its color LCD for the mac in system preferences. As the printer is a print on demand site its not so easy to run tests. The thing is, they want the images as a PDF, but I am loosing quality pringing it into pages, would it be different if i created the PDF directly from photoshop (is that even possible?)
paper options are:
- 60#, 80# or 100# matte text stock options with Saddle Stitch Binding
- 80# premium cover stock, 80# matte text stock with Perfect Binding
the site says this:
If you are creating your PDF in a different program like Microsoft Word or Publisher, or Apple Pages, you’ll want to save your images based on whether they were CMYK or RGB to begin with. If they were CMYK to begin with, they should be saved as CMYK. If they were RGB to begin with, saving them with an sRGB colorspace will give you the best output.
I already changed them in photoshop from RGB to CMYK, is it too late to change back? where is the sRGB option anyway?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 19, 2013 1:12 PM (in response to ufoliver2)
I just brought the image in again but now as an RGB, and it looks WAY better....but will it print like the CMYK version???
Currently Being ModeratedMar 19, 2013 1:29 PM (in response to ufoliver2)
I gather you are not a trained designer?
With color management you are trying to make the best of a bad deal.
No way anything on paper will ever look as good as it does on screen. Process color Inks are imperfect, have less color range than your screen and paper absorbs ink revealing at least some of the background material. Printers undergo considerable training to learn how to manage and compensate for the changes. And believe it or not they test their equipment and output to see what happens in the real world.
It sounds like you have not done any of the color management recommended by Adobe, so have whatever defaults your version of Photoshop came with. The color management in Photoshop is in the Preferences where you'd expect to find them.
There is also the factor of your work setting. You can not judge color accurately in a typical domestic or work environment.
HP MagCloud's recommendation to use sRGB images suggests they have color management in place for typical conversion from PCs. There is no point changing any image back to RGB, each change degrades the image and does not improve it.
As I said, you need to test the results before committing to a major and possibly expensive job. You do that with known test target images like this: