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what are the "rules" regarding render files?

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Mar 15, 2013 2:08 PM PO-ed user here, wondering *** is going on...


I've always said that FCP is about as weak as an early version of Media 100 when it comes to render files.  You can search my posts (not that you'd want to...), and find that I've been complaining about every system I regularly work on losing render files like a 6 year old loses mittens.


However, it's hit the fan, thus this post.  I work on a half-hour tv show.  Let me mention that we shoot and edit in XDCAM EX 1080i60; this is notable as yes, I know, rendering in long-GOP codecs is slow.  Oh, I know it...


Anyway, this past Tuesday I dilligently rendered my composite sequence, and the broadcast output sequence, and then exported the broadcast sequence for feed.  All was well.


Today, I opened up the project so I could make final archives and web exports of the individual segments...and guess what?  Gee, Wally, the entire sequence was, you guessed it, unrendered.  Where did those pesky render files go?  Well, I figured I'd try something I never try, and that was to reconnect them.  Hopeless, right? 


As it turns out, yes, hopeless...because when I navigated to the Render Files folder, there was a grand total of 11 render files for this particular project.  Now, I don't change my System Settings at all...I like where things go, I have my media volumes set up, everything should be hunky-dory, no?


So to get to the heart of the matter...what process is tossing render files?  Why are they disappearing from my hard drive?

I have folders from projects from 2 months ago that have some render files in them, but I don't have the render files my system (supposedly) created on Tuesday!


Anyone got any ideas?

  • D Gilmore Level 4 Level 4 (3,525 points)
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    Mar 15, 2013 2:30 PM (in response to Mike Janowski)

    Do you have all the renders checked?


    Click on the Sequence Menu, highlight Render Selection as well as Render All and see if everything on the right menu then has a check mark.


    What's happening to you is not normal.  I edit with XDcam sequences and when I re-open projects which have been rendered I do not have to re-render.


    You may also think about trashing preferences and repairing permissions.

  • Shane Ross Level 8 Level 8 (41,650 points)
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    Mar 19, 2013 5:53 PM (in response to Mike Janowski)

    >When I'm all finished editing, I place my sequence into another sequence


    How? Copy and paste?  Or are you nesting...because it sounds like...


    >I make the change on my edit sequence, then go back to the output sequence...OH OH, in addition to needing to render the small video section, a whole bunch of audio needs to be re-rendered as well.

 're nesting.  Don't do that.  Bring over the sequence complete...copy and paste all the clips.  And your "edit sequence" and "output sequence" should be the same thing. Why are they different?  I might start out by editing things in small sections (Acts in my case), but when I combine them into the final sequence...any change I make I make to the final sequence.  THAT is now the main and only thing I work on.

  • Shane Ross Level 8 Level 8 (41,650 points)
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    Mar 20, 2013 10:29 AM (in response to Mike Janowski)

    >are you suggesting that I just splat-A my edited sequence and apply the filters to the gazillion-odd clips individually?


    Yup.  That's what I do, and have done for years.


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