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Q: 10.8.3 update: issue with HDD in optical bay of MacBook Pro

After updating from 10.8.2 to 10.8.3 the second internal HDD which is placed in the optical bay of my MacBook Pro late 09 gets lost after some minutes. That means it suddenly unmounts (with a warning message about improper unmounting) and can't get activated again. Diskutil will not see it any longer. After a restart its mounted - until it spontaneously vanishes again.

 

Before everything has been working flawlessly for about 2 years, with SSD in the original HDD Bay an the HDD in a optical bay caddy. Firmware is EFI 1.6 (downgraded, because 1.7 won't work properly with such a constellation).

 

Has anybody else made similar observations or maybe already found workarounds for this issue? I was forced to go back to 10.8.2 because I need this second drive!

Posted on Mar 17, 2013 5:08 AM

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  • by woodmeister50,

    woodmeister50 woodmeister50 Mar 20, 2013 3:52 AM in response to bucketheadbobby
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    Mar 20, 2013 3:52 AM in response to bucketheadbobby

    bucketheadbobby wrote:

     

    .... Apple don't seem willing to acknowledge the problem but we all know it exists.....

    This is not a production configuration or an officially

    accepted modification , so Apple is not obliged

    to acknowledge or resolve the issue.  That is the risk

    you take with mods such as this.

  • by Hargitanandor,

    Hargitanandor Hargitanandor Mar 20, 2013 4:11 AM in response to woodmeister50
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    Mar 20, 2013 4:11 AM in response to woodmeister50

    true. but.

     

    the question is, WHAT modification, or optimization can break a proper SATA device, connected to a proper SATA port, run by a proper SATA controller?!

     

     

    BUT Safari is now optimized to scroll better on the bloody facebook - must have been a pain in the ***... lol - but we cant use a sata device on a sata port.

  • by bucketheadbobby,

    bucketheadbobby bucketheadbobby Mar 20, 2013 5:08 AM in response to woodmeister50
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    Mar 20, 2013 5:08 AM in response to woodmeister50

    It is a correct production configuration only the hard drive has been upgraded. Apple provide the facility to upgrade the HDD and tell you how to do it in the manual so it is allowed , but MID 2009  MBP will not work correctly with EFI 1.7. Apple must have been aware of the problem because they changed the controller chip 4 months after the MID 2009 MBPs were issued .After this chip update no more problems happened. Apple are a great company but do not admit to all their faults. It does seem that MID 2009 MacBookPro was a problem child. And the problem has now re-appeared with 10.8.3.

  • by micropain,

    micropain micropain Mar 20, 2013 5:56 AM in response to bucketheadbobby
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    Mar 20, 2013 5:56 AM in response to bucketheadbobby

    This problem is also affecting my Mid 2011 Mac Mini.  This mac was offered with two hard drives installed as an option.   I had used one for my boot camp drive running Windows 7.

     

    After the 10.8.3 update, my boot camp drive (secondary) disappeared and does not show up anywhere, even diskutil.  However, I can reboot the Mac with option held down and see the boot camp drive and even boot to it. 

  • by runDNL,

    runDNL runDNL Mar 20, 2013 5:03 PM in response to pebewe
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    Mar 20, 2013 5:03 PM in response to pebewe

    Folks - I'm having the issue with a mid 2009 unibody macbook pro.  same issue w/ the SATA downgrade.  Anyway, I am able to read the drive in firewire target mode.  Hope that helps some folks...

  • by woodmeister50,

    woodmeister50 woodmeister50 Mar 21, 2013 4:23 AM in response to bucketheadbobby
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    Mar 21, 2013 4:23 AM in response to bucketheadbobby

    bucketheadbobby wrote:

     

    It is a correct production configuration only the hard drive has been upgraded. ....

    The comment was to those, as the OP had done, replaced

    the CD/DVD drive with a hard drive. 

    issue with HDD in optical bay of MacBook Pro

     

    If all you did was replace the HDD, then that is a different issue all

    together.  BTW, what brand HDD is it and is there any firmware

    updates for it (rare but a possibility)?  What is the SATA version

    of the HDD?

  • by abarsam,

    abarsam abarsam Mar 26, 2013 5:29 PM in response to pebewe
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    Mar 26, 2013 5:29 PM in response to pebewe

    Sorry for the threadjack but I am having a very similar issue, described in detail here:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4921455

     

    Maybe we can pool our wisdom...

  • by cbucks,

    cbucks cbucks Mar 31, 2013 11:56 AM in response to pebewe
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    Mar 31, 2013 11:56 AM in response to pebewe

    I recently purchased a Toshiba MQ01ABD100 1 TB drive and have a MacbookPro5,4 with OSX 10.8.3 and EFI 1.7. When I install the Toshiba drive all I get is a file folder with a blinking question mark. When I take the drive out and use a usb adapter I can boot to the drive via usb and it works perfectly. I have somewhat given up on this drive and wondering if this is the drive you have and whether it is working on 10.8.3 EFI 1.7?

     

    Anybody else have other drives that are successfully working on 10.8.3 EFI 1.7 with MacbookPro5,4?

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex Mar 31, 2013 12:13 PM in response to pebewe
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    Mar 31, 2013 12:13 PM in response to pebewe

    pewebe

    this thread is leading nowhere with a lot of "hackers" with their own problems.

    Your situation is probably a dying disk in the superdrive bay.

    Did you have it already backed up? Do so asap.

    Do you have the OS on the HD in the "normal" bay? Can you start from it?

    If so start from it and start Disk Utility to look at the problem HD, repair disk. Backup and install some good App in the main Drive to look at it: like DriveDx (appstore, use the demo period).

    You probably have to replace it.

  • by cbucks,

    cbucks cbucks Apr 1, 2013 2:35 PM in response to pebewe
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    Apr 1, 2013 2:35 PM in response to pebewe

    LexSchellings - I don't think people wanting to upgrade their hard drives to large one is considered "hacking" but if you consider that hacking then I guess we would all be hackers.

     

    We just want to upgrade our old computers to a larger hard drive. I am wondering if we can make a list of drives that work with the 10.8.3 update and EFI 1.7  For starters, I can tell everyone that the Toshiba MQ01ABD100 drive does NOT work but there are drives that do. I put in a 500GB drive and it is working. I am curious if anybody has a 1 TB drive that is working? If so, can you post the make and model.

  • by Swndr,

    Swndr Swndr Apr 5, 2013 4:22 AM in response to cbucks
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    Apr 5, 2013 4:22 AM in response to cbucks

    Here's another one that doesn't work: WESTERN DIGITAL Scorpio Blue (WD7500BPVT-00HXZT1)

     

    When I frist installed had to go down to EFI 1.6. All fine until 10.8.3 (now back on 10.8.2).

     

    Going to see Apple this weekend, though suspect they won't help as I changed the HDD. Does seem the mid-2009 MBPs are 'problem children' as bucketheadbobby above says.

  • by runDNL,

    runDNL runDNL Apr 5, 2013 7:28 AM in response to Swndr
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    Apr 5, 2013 7:28 AM in response to Swndr

    If you don't have a way to install 10.8.2 yourself, the Apple store folks will let you (at least they did for me).

  • by Swndr,

    Swndr Swndr Apr 5, 2013 7:31 AM in response to runDNL
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    Apr 5, 2013 7:31 AM in response to runDNL

    Thanks, but that's not a problem - I'm back on 10.8.2 now and everything working. I just don't want to be stuck on 10.8.2 forever!

  • by abarsam,

    abarsam abarsam Apr 5, 2013 7:51 AM in response to pebewe
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    Apr 5, 2013 7:51 AM in response to pebewe

    I believe I have a resolution for people having issues with Seagate drives and EFI 1.7 / ML 10.8.3. It involves setting a jumper to limit SATA speed to 1.5. It works on my machine, which didn't previously work with EFI 1.7 / 10.8.3 the combination. Please see my posting here:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/21706245

     

    Hope this helps someone.

  • by abarsam,

    abarsam abarsam Apr 5, 2013 7:49 AM in response to abarsam
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    Apr 5, 2013 7:49 AM in response to abarsam

    PS- My solution may contain a clue for people who have these issues with non-Seagate drives, also.

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