Snoopyjazzy2

Q: Deleting songs from iTunes match on iTunes 11

I have just updated to iTunes 11.0.2 and found that when I want to delete songs on ITunes match, it would ask if I want to hide the songs in iCloud. Does this mean that the song is not entirely deleted but is still stored in the cloud? The total song count in iTunes match when updated does show there is one song less in my iCloud.

 

Ths is a song I imported from a CD and not purchased.

 

Is this a bug?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Feb 19, 2013 3:36 PM

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  • by boywonder8503,

    boywonder8503 boywonder8503 Feb 19, 2013 6:41 PM in response to Snoopyjazzy2
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    Feb 19, 2013 6:41 PM in response to Snoopyjazzy2

    I'd also like more information on this new wording...

  • by mrchablis,

    mrchablis mrchablis Feb 21, 2013 4:00 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2
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    Feb 21, 2013 4:00 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2

    Same here. I think it's just a bug and that the songs are actually deleted from iCloud.

  • by Michael Allbritton,

    Michael Allbritton Michael Allbritton Feb 21, 2013 4:40 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2
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    Feb 21, 2013 4:40 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2

    It does appear that the new behavior is "hiding" rather than "deleting." What this means in practicaly terms I don't know yet.

  • by jeandragonslayer,

    jeandragonslayer jeandragonslayer Feb 24, 2013 1:36 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2
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    Feb 24, 2013 1:36 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2

    if it is "hidden" how i can i find it again to really "delete" it this time.

  • by Jimzgoldfinch,

    Jimzgoldfinch Jimzgoldfinch Feb 24, 2013 2:50 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2
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    Feb 24, 2013 2:50 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2

    Hi,

    I have always suspected that deleted tracks are not really deleted! I think that only time will tell.

     

    Since getting match I have been adding, deleting and readding files regularly. I have almost 25K non purchased tracks and they don't count previous removed tracks which i think must be well over 8K.

     

    I support this by the fact that if you have deleted an uploaded track and try to get a match, the track is immediated recognised as previously been uploaded . i.e does not go through usual upload process.

     

    Jim

  • by Jimzgoldfinch,

    Jimzgoldfinch Jimzgoldfinch Feb 24, 2013 2:51 AM in response to jeandragonslayer
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    Feb 24, 2013 2:51 AM in response to jeandragonslayer

    There does not appear to be a way!!

     

    Jim

  • by adama1980,

    adama1980 adama1980 Feb 24, 2013 7:24 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2
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    Feb 24, 2013 7:24 AM in response to Snoopyjazzy2

    Almost all of my music is from my CD collection.

     

    I regularly sell CDs and as I am doing this, remove the copy from my itunes library - If this is no longer going to be fully possible for things i've uploaded then I will be leaving the itunes match service.

     

    Surely this can't be the case?

  • by Michael Allbritton,

    Michael Allbritton Michael Allbritton Feb 24, 2013 8:20 AM in response to adama1980
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    Feb 24, 2013 8:20 AM in response to adama1980

    adama1980 wrote:

     

    Almost all of my music is from my CD collection.

     

    I regularly sell CDs and as I am doing this, remove the copy from my itunes library - If this is no longer going to be fully possible for things i've uploaded then I will be leaving the itunes match service.

     

    Surely this can't be the case?

    Why would you cancel the service just over this? Assuming you are otherwise pleased with the service. As far as I can tell the default behavior was actually to "hide" the tracks in the cloud anyway. Apple just made that explicit in the dialog. As far as I can tell hidden tracks do not count against the 25K total.

  • by adama1980,

    adama1980 adama1980 Feb 24, 2013 8:36 AM in response to Michael Allbritton
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    Feb 24, 2013 8:36 AM in response to Michael Allbritton

    I suppose you're right, if i'm deleting it locally, effectively, i'm doing all i can to remove it.

     

    i'm nowhere near 25k anyways (about 4-5k tops) so even if it did count, it wouldn't really effect me a great deal

  • by RTW's,

    RTW's RTW's Feb 26, 2013 9:31 PM in response to Jimzgoldfinch
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    Feb 26, 2013 9:31 PM in response to Jimzgoldfinch

    As far as I know, iTunes Match has never ever actually deleted anything from the cloud once it is uploaded. It always seems to be retrievable later simply by matching the same tracks again.

     

    I HATE THIS.

     

    If I want to delete something from the cloud, I want to DELETE it. I don't want to HIDE it.

     

    Without getting into too much explanation, there are times when I want to re-add albums to iTunes Match and have them re-matched or re-uploaded. I don't want Match to "remember" the matches and uploads from before, before I DELETED them from the cloud.

     

    There should be a way.

  • by Russell Asplund,

    Russell Asplund Russell Asplund Mar 20, 2013 6:24 PM in response to Snoopyjazzy2
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    Mar 20, 2013 6:24 PM in response to Snoopyjazzy2

    Very frustrated that I have the same problem here. My daughter was trying to listed to some Japanese lessons from school on my computer -- and now they are taking up a huge amount of tracks on iTunes match with no apparent way to delete.

     

    Either remove the stupid limit, or give us a way to choose what files we want to be part of iTunes Match. Really, the idea of iTunes Match is fantastic, and I was hoping early problems with implementation would be improved. Instead things just seemed to take a huge, frustrating step backwards.Especially for anyone who is more than a causual consumer of music.

  • by Michael Allbritton,

    Michael Allbritton Michael Allbritton Mar 21, 2013 12:37 AM in response to Russell Asplund
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    Mar 21, 2013 12:37 AM in response to Russell Asplund

    Delete the tracks from the iTunes library (but not the HDD) and hide them in the cloud. Turn off iTM, add the tracks again and change the media kind to Audiobook. Re-enable iTM. The tracks will no longer be in the cloud for you.

  • by Russell Asplund,

    Russell Asplund Russell Asplund Mar 21, 2013 9:48 AM in response to Michael Allbritton
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    Mar 21, 2013 9:48 AM in response to Michael Allbritton

    Thanks! That worked.

  • by Besökare,

    Besökare Besökare Apr 14, 2013 8:39 PM in response to Michael Allbritton
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    Apr 14, 2013 8:39 PM in response to Michael Allbritton

    I just updated iTunes Match and the hidden songs were removed...