Currently Being ModeratedMar 22, 2013 12:39 PM (in response to TGMB)
Hello, the alt boot icons are 3/4 circle= look again for boot devices, possible or not drives in the middle, & the right arrow is Boot from selected device.
The X means the drive needs Repair at the very least, but may be dying also... does it boot from your Install Disc?
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.
(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)
If perchance you can't find your install Disc, at least try it from the Safe Boot part onward.
Oh, & as far as browsers...
TenFourFox is the most up to date browser for our PPCs, they even have G4 & G5 optimized versions...
SeaMonkey seems pretty fast also, with many options...
Have you blown the dust out lately?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 22, 2013 3:41 PM (in response to BDAqua)Thanks for your detailed answer and the info on browsers...I've been working on the mac for hours and hours reading all kinds of advice off of the net and have done so many things I'm nearly cross-eyed...I've tried booting up from my OS 10.5.4 CD and running disk utilities...Nothing seems to work...I got the message "rebuilding catalog B-tree, underlying task reported failure on exit (-9972) 1 volume could not be repaired..." Another was "file system verify or repair failed..." I've done the safe boot and another boot that allows you to check if the firmware is okay (and it said it was) also I reset various settings (pram? catalog setting?) I'll have to research what I've researched to tell you more! I've also did a dieagnosis beyond disk utilities and that didn't work either (c-something or other). I'm having fun here and now I've got a plumbing and wall repair problem too...Do you think any repair disks are worth the investment? I've also gotten to the point on here where I've tried to reload 10.5.4 but when it asks where I want the system installed ni icon of the hard drive is present. Gotta say when I did do the disk utilities from my OS 10.5.4 disk things seem to look pretty grim....anything here make it sound like my little buddy is dying on me? Thanks for your time and effort in this. TB
Currently Being ModeratedMar 22, 2013 3:57 PM (in response to TGMB)
What does this report?
Does it boot to Single User Mode, CMD+s keys at bootup, if so try...
Repeat until it shows no errors fixed.
(Space between fsck AND -fy important).
Resolve startup issues and perform disk maintenance with Disk Utility and fsck...
Just recently I ran into a problem when I tried to Verify my hard disk and when it tried to verify the catalog, it responded "Invalid sibling link." Repair Disk didn't work. I searched the web and Apple's site, and couldn't find anything useful except to buy DiskWarrior or reformat the drive. Knowing that OS X is built on Unix gave me a few clues on how to proceed. The solution is pretty simple:
1. Boot off the OS X CD (reboot, hold C while booting).
2. The installer will load up, go to Utilities in the menu and run Terminal.
3. Type df and look for the drive that has your Mac system mounted---you'll have to unmount this. On my MacBook Pro, it was /dev/disk0s2.
4. Type umount /dev/disk0s2, replacing disk0s2 with whatever disk your OS lives on.
5. Type fsck_hfs -r /dev/disk0s2. If you umounted the wrong thing, it will complain that you can't repair a mounted drive. Go back and umount the right thing and repeat this step.
Just for fun, you might want to run another fsck_hfs on your disk (use the -f option because your drive is probably journaled). Hope this helps someone so they don't buy a program that's going to do pretty much what we did with fsck_hfs, and so they don't waste time searching for an answer to no avail. By the way, TechTool Deluxe (3.1.1) didn't find the Catalog problem for some reason (you'll have this on a CD if you have AppleCare), which is why I resorted to fsck.
You must repair the HD, if Disk Utility or fsck should fail to repair it, your best bet is DiskWarrior from Alsoft, you'll need the CD to boot from if you don't have another boot drive...
Your best bet is DiskWarrior, you need the CD/DVD though.
But others that may work…
Though it's tough to tell if the Hard Drive is dying, or maybe a RAM problem.
BTW, you might enjoy these DiskWarrior review/recommendations...
Currently Being ModeratedMar 22, 2013 5:14 PM (in response to BDAqua)
Thanks. I followed some fsck-thing protocol earlier today after running disk utilities... and that didn't pan out for me. (I think I called it a "c" thing in my earleir message.) I will try everything you have suggested and get back to you. Thanks again. TB
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 9:58 AM (in response to TGMB)
Hi, thanks again for your info packed response to my deilmma with the mac mini. I did everything you suggested. Firstly, the computer won't boot up into single use mode (unless I should be doing the CMDS key holding when I'm booting from the original 10.5.4 cd). It just doesn't work. I did perform a /sbin/fsck -fy yesterday and the end reslut was that nothing happened. I booted up from the disk and performed the Terminal task as suggested in part of your response. When I typed unmount/dev/disk1s3, the answer came back, "No such file or directory." Thanks for all of you wisdom on this! TB
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 11:03 AM (in response to TGMB)
Ouch, seems like the drive is in really bad shape... or worse.
Do you have another Mac with Firewire around?
Does this Mini boot in to FireWire target disk mode...
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 1:49 PM (in response to BDAqua)
Yeah, things seem pretty grim for my little buddy...I'll see about the firewire target disk mode, but I don't have another mac or know of someone with one! I still haven't given up on a disk repair cd of some kind...Thanks for your help throughout all of this, though. TB
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 3:23 PM (in response to TGMB)
Do you have an external drive you can Install OSX to?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 5:06 PM (in response to BDAqua)
Nothing independent. The only thing I do have is a PC with a read/write cd drive (don't know how I'd make thaqt connection). The mini, as you know has its own cd drive...Time for McGuyver...
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 5:18 PM (in response to TGMB)
Sadly, that won't help.
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