Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 10:25 AM (in response to ProfessorSpellman)
It could be that Pages is embedding the fonts, and MsWord is not if the document uses standard fonts.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 12:30 PM (in response to PeterBreis0807)
I've done some more research. I exported the same document with three different fonts and got three different sizes. The standard font I used is Garamond Premier Pro and it had the largest file size at nearly 10 times the other sizes.
Is there a way within Pages or the Font Book or the quartz filter to automatically send to the PDF only a font subset?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 2:27 PM (in response to ProfessorSpellman)
I think you'll find that it actually does that by default.
The point with Microsoft products is that they will take shortcuts, not embedding fonts on the assumption that everyone has the same set installed on their PCs.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 5:45 PM (in response to PeterBreis0807)
I am not using any Microsoft products now.
Using Pages and the same 1000 word document I get a 122KB PDF with Garamond Premier Pro, and a 17KB PDF file with Garamond.
Fonts affect the size and I don't believe for a second that this is sending a font subset by default.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 6:44 PM (in response to ProfessorSpellman)
Unless your students are on a dial-up connection, file sizes less than <200 kB are pretty small with today's bandwidth and speeds.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 23, 2013 10:31 PM (in response to ProfessorSpellman)
You compared the size with a MsWord, you have to use Word to do that.
The .doc doesn't contain a preview pdf file, the Pages document does so you can see it clearly in CoverFlow.
Be interesting to see and test your documents.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 24, 2013 4:20 AM (in response to ProfessorSpellman)
Garamond Premier Pro is 360 KB on my system; I'm pretty sure your 122 KB pdf doesn't embed the whole font.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 24, 2013 9:05 AM (in response to ProfessorSpellman)
Adobe Reader can tell you what fonts are included in the PDF via File > Properties > Fonts.
If a single character has an unintended font applied to it, that font or its subset gets pulled into the PDF. Reader can help discover these unplanned inclusions that may further explain your PDF size.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 24, 2013 9:43 AM (in response to VikingOSX)
I think if you read what the O.P. original said, it is that older Word documents are significantly smaller than current Pages documents. I can't see that specifically meant pdfs exported from both as it is extremely unusual to export Word docs to pdf.
Word docs are basically text, nearly every Pages' template keeps its unused Sections in the document which adds a whole layer of hidden layout and text not visible in the final file.
If you systematically delete those sections, the size comes down dramatically.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 24, 2013 10:07 AM (in response to PeterBreis0807)
Okay... Forget about Word...
I want the documents I make in Pages and then export to a PDF to be smaller. It is wasteful to use that much space and bandwidth for a single page of text.
Based on what I've seen I just need to change my default font to a smaller one. Even though it is putting it into the PDF as a subset, Garamond Premier Pro is too big and is making these PDFs far bigger than they need to be.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 24, 2013 12:07 PM (in response to ProfessorSpellman)
I created a 2 page, 877 word document (copied the text from here) in Arial and made a Pages and Word for Mac copy. I deleted the Pages Sections.
Pages (blank portrait WP template): 126,006 bytes
Pages (above with sections deleted): 97,541 bytes
Pages pdf : 24,751 bytes
Word .doc: 34,304 bytes
Word .docx: 144,575 bytes
Word pdf: 33,692 bytes
The worst case is .docx and a Word pdf is almost 50% larger than a Pages pdf, which is itself 2/3rds the size of a native .doc file.