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Why does Apple not provide a proper AV for OSX?

1294 Views 23 Replies Latest reply: Mar 29, 2013 6:13 PM by petermac87 RSS
  • MadMacs0 Level 4 Level 4 (3,360 points)

    sebastian brabetz wrote:

     

    But if OS X already includes _everything_ to protect itself how come there was a flashback and flashfake? How come Java exploits can compromise the entire OS?

    Obviously at the time it did not have everything and tomorrow we might be saying the same thing, but today we can be comfortable saying there are no currently known threats to a fully up-to-date OS X 10.6.8 and above. If another Java vulnerability is exploited by malware, the only thing that would probably catch is is a properly configured Java/GateKeeper combination. I don't believe for one minute that any third party A-V software on the market today will do any better.

    How can it be that evry IOS Version gets Jailbroken over time? Sometimes it was as easy as pointing safari to a webpage (PDF interpeter exploit)....

    That has nothing to do with this discussion. Different OS and it's the users choice to jailbreak it.

     

    There is a parallel, of course. Back when Java was disabled by Apple, many users were providing instructions for shutting XProtect down completely in so users could play their favorite games again.

    telling everyone OSX is perfect and does not need any security or does not need to keep up with the security world sound to me like a tale told by generation of MAC users that lived in times when OSX was a niche product...

    I rarely read anything close to that here in the forum. I know I always try to make it clear that I am referring only to the way things are at the moment. I have, at time, been equally critical of Apple when they have not shown what I consider to be appropriate reaction to a threat, but I must say they have listened and their approach to security is far better than it was even a year ago. Not perfect, of course, and unlike commercial A-V companies, they do have other development efforts that must be resourced. But IMHO, they are doing a lot better at this than either Adobe or Oracle seem to be doing at the moment in this area.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,485 points)

    Have a nice day Sebastian.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)

    sebastian brabetz wrote:

     

    Also i will admit up front that i have note yet read up to much on the OS X security system.

    Pretty much says it all really. Time to stop feeding the troll, folks.

     

    Pete

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,485 points)

    sebastian brabetz wrote:

     

     

    Is that such a bad thing to try? Has everything on the internet be all or nothing? Hate it or love it?

    Maybe you are or maybe you're not, but you come across as a troll. Trolls are rather dull.

  • Susan Howard Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)
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    Mar 29, 2013 5:17 PM (in response to petermac87)

    Hi Pete,

     

    Sorry, he didn't say. I don't have that info.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,065 points)
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    Mar 29, 2013 6:13 PM (in response to Susan Howard)

    I didn't think you would.

     

    Pete

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