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Alan Lees Calculating status...
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Mar 29, 2013 7:15 PM

I bought my my imac jan 2011 - so thats my model it came with snow leopard...when Lion came along I upgraded but my mac crashed within minutes of starting Lion - through various tortuous processs I went back to snow leopard (dont ask my original install disk was chewed by the dvd player) - anyway funds became available and I bought a lacie external drive...I installed Lion on this and upgraded it to Mountain Lion...so now I have dual boots SL from the mac HD and ML from the lacie drive...here is my prob I can no longer keep ML running than I could Lion (about 5 mins before black screen crash)

 

So what is the problem? if someone answers hardware prob - how come I can run Snow Leopard almost perfectly?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Mid 2010 27" 3.2 Ghz Intel Core i3
  • ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)
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    Mar 30, 2013 4:49 PM (in response to Alan Lees)

    Because in Snow Leopard Apple wasn't playing silly games, but in 10.7 and later they are.

     

    Just erase the entire external drive and use it as a clone for Snow Leopard.

     

    Most commonly used backup methods

     

    For Snow Leopard Speed Freaks

  • ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)
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    Mar 31, 2013 6:06 AM (in response to Alan Lees)

    Alan Lees wrote:


    stick with Snow Leopard until what?

     

    Until the machine drops dead.

     

     

     

    I am happy at the moment running SL but it wont last forever

     

    Yes it will, until the machine drops dead that is.

     

    If Apple drops support, which they won't soon because nearly 50% of OS X users are on Snow Leopard due to legacy software reasons, you can always install Deep Freeze, which upon reboot will set the altered bits back to the frozen state, thus if there was malware, there will be none after the reboot.

     

    Files are saved into non-frozen area or off the machine.

     

    Firefox will still provide updates for as long as there is a substantial amount of that OS X version market share, which there is currently a great deal now and will remain so for many years before dwindling down to below 10%, even then there are other browsers and the web will function almost the same.

     

    so is the 'most advanced operating system' going down the toilet?

     

    In 10.7 and 10.8 it certainly is, why Scott Forstall was fired and hardware designer Jonny Iv'es is also doing human UI.

     

    So if you want to wait out the abortion of the Lions for what's coming next and make your decision then, your most certainly welcome to join the huge crowd.

     

     

    I'm kind of leaning towards Windows 7 myself, at least I know that won't change (and all my software with it) until 2020.

     

    And in a virtual machine, I can run Windows 7 under Snow Leopard until 2020. It's the Internet where malware comes from, so Win 7 is used online for that and thus I have all my paid for Snow Leopard software working just fine until the machine drops dead, regardless if Apple drops support for 10.6.

     

    Windows in BootCamp or Virtual Machine?

     

     

    By 10.9 or 11.0 we should know better what Apple is doing, but I don't think people are going to like it much.

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (11,880 points)
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    Mar 31, 2013 6:25 AM (in response to Alan Lees)

    There is no reason a 2011, or 2010, iMac shouldn't be able to run Mountain Lion (or Lion, for that matter.) How much RAM do you have installed? I know ML is far hungrier for RAM than Snow. What ds store is telling you makes absolutely no sense.

     

    Can you look in Console (All Messages, system.log, diagnostic  reports (either system or user ) in Utilities for any messages from around the times of these events.

     

    Black screen crash sounds like a kernel panic. Can you post the panic log if you can find one. It may be you have some incompatible (for ML) software item.

     

    Can you also try creating or logging into another user and see if you have the same problem there.

     

     

     

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  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (11,880 points)
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    Mar 31, 2013 6:00 PM (in response to Alan Lees)

    Look first for that panic report, if it exists--or still exists.

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (11,880 points)
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    Apr 1, 2013 6:37 AM (in response to Alan Lees)

    Another idea: See if the problems stop if you remove one or both sticks of the RAM you installed, that is, if it's not Apple RAM. I know you said you tested the RAM, but RAM problems can be very elusive to track down.

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (11,880 points)
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    Apr 8, 2013 6:05 PM (in response to Alan Lees)

    Sorry when I log to Montain Lion what console reports do you need to see?

    That's not clear from what I wrote above?

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (11,880 points)
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    Apr 10, 2013 4:29 AM (in response to Alan Lees)

    Can you look in Console (All Messages, system.log, diagnostic  reports (either system or user ) in Utilities for any messages from around the times of these events.

    When you open Console, you'll see a list of various logs. This is what I see in Snow Leopard; yours will most likely look a bit different. In mine, some of them are greyed out. If you are running from an admin account, they won't be. To get to a log you click the disclosure triangle next to it. (You may have to click several to get to the one you need, if they are nested.)

     

    The most likely place to find the panic log is in /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports, but also look in System Diagnostic Reports.

     

     

     

     

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    We still aren't certain this is a kernel panic. Does the screen log like this when it happens?

     

    Some further reading:

     

    http://www.macworld.com/article/2027201/how-to-troubleshoot-a-kernel-panic.html

     

    http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/kernelpanics.html

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (11,880 points)
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    Jun 1, 2013 8:30 PM (in response to Alan Lees)

    I'm thinking it might be drive getting ready to fail. Be sure you have a backup on it right away.

     

    Get the demo of SMART Utility to check the health of the drive.

     

    http://www.volitans-software.com/smart_utility.php

     

    Also run the hardware test in extended mode at least a few times.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1509

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