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Kenneth Nielsen Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

I know I am just getting my feet wet, having come across my first unsurmountable problem that is most likely a piece of cake to most who frequent here. I just downloaded a midi file with a few tracks in it, which opened in Logic Pro 9 with no problem, but when I hit play there is no sound, the meters indicate signal strength and all looks good but no sound. In searching these forums I see that setting the MIDI output volume and channel correctly is probably at the root of the problem. So now, before I pull what little hair I have out, I ask if someone here could help me with this basic question for which I find no answer to in help indexes or on any forum or YouTube. Two things: 1.) How do I set the output volume (need specific help as to which knob, where and a screen shot would help emmensely here) and, 2.) How do I set the correct channel if I need to with this problem.

 

It is strange to me that I cannot find the answer on the entire internet or in my exellent books I have or in the Logic Pro 9 Manual. I can only think that my question is so basic that no one thinks is is worth addressing. I have no experience with the mixer panel and I think that is probably where I could find the answer if I knew what I was doing. I don't want to go messing where I don't know what I am doing, so I come here first for help.

 

Please....

 


TIA,

 

Ken


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion, 8G RAM
  • 1. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    mdee Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    Sounds to me like you may be working with GM (General Midi) Files?

    You can change midi channels in the Inspector window.

    Can you post a screenshot of your Arrange window?

  • 2. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Kenneth Nielsen Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Logic_Pro_Screen_Shot.png

  • 3. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,645 points)

    Where is Logic's audio output assigned?

    Have you setup Logic's (Audio) preferences?

    Logic does not automatically set things up for you.

     

    This is a professional program, I always wonder why people don't start with Garageband to get their feet wet and learn the basics.

  • 4. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    mdee Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=32%26se ction=4%26tasks=true

     

    See if this will address your problem. Good link to have bookmarked.

  • 5. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Kenneth Nielsen Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Pancenter wrote:

     

    Where is Logic's audio output assigned?

    Have you setup Logic's preferences?

    Logic does not automatically set things up for you.

     

    This is a professional program, I always wonder why people don't start with Garageband to get their feet wet and learn the basics.

     

    I knew I would irk someone, I do have Garageband and that could be where I should stay, but Logic Pro offers so much more. I couldn't help myself dumping Cubase in favor of Logic Pro. As you can guess, I was getting nowhere with Cubase and figured that Logic Pro has a much friendlier and more proactive user base where I could get help. I'm happy with any advice I can get, as I realize Logic Pro is a program you can spend 20 years studying and still be learning more. My goal at this point is to know a few of the basics about bringing in GM tracks and have them play. Already you are setting me straight and I'm very grateful.

     

    Let me go back to my books and get information on your two essential questions, I should have answers to:

     

     

    Where is Logic's audio output assigned?

     


    Have you setup Logic's preferences?

     

     

    I have a local Guitar Center store where I can go in for lessons to get hands on experience with a teaching professional to get answers to these questions. I will, if I don't find out sooner, go in and take these two questions with me as a starter to my better years ahead working with Logic Pro.

     

    One thing I like about Adobe software is they have a series called 'Classroom In A Book' where they make sure you are given a proper run-through to set your software up properly. Do you know of any such book for Logic Pro 9? I Hadn't found one yet...

     

    Thank You,

     

    Ken

  • 6. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Kenneth Nielsen Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    mdee wrote:

     

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=32%26se ction=4%26tasks=true

     

    See if this will address your problem. Good link to have bookmarked.

     

     

    Okay, You guys did what I needed and gave me the right direction to head in. I'll take some classes at Guitar Center, because they have working professionals who teach one-on-one classes there which should be a great help. My needs are simple, but not that simple now, as I need to work out the basics first. Thanks for this link to the User Manual section which will definitely get me going, and also to Pancenter for the right questions I should have addressed first.

     

    On my way to pulling this together now....

     

     

    Thanks,

     

    Ken

  • 7. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    chorleyman Level 4 Level 4 (1,415 points)

    On a human level, that's a very gracious response, it suggests that you realise that there's a lot to learn, so you have to learn in a considered way as well - one thing at a time try putting everything together every so often, see how it works out ?

     

    I still do it like that, anyway, I suppose.

  • 8. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Eriksimon Level 6 Level 6 (10,835 points)

    Kenneth Nielsen wrote:

     

    One thing I like about Adobe software is they have a series called 'Classroom In A Book' where they make sure you are given a proper run-through to set your software up properly. Do you know of any such book for Logic Pro 9? I Hadn't found one yet...

     

     

    This book, though it goes beyond only setting up:

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Pro-Training-Logic-Express/dp/0321636805?ie=UTF8&s=b ooks&qid=1252539968&sr=1-2

     

    and this website (owned by and actively run by the author of the above book):

    http://www.logicprohelp.com/index.php?file=home

     

    Your two questions can be answered by the manual (actually you set up the audio hardware in the preferences):

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=2%26sec tion=5%26hash=apple_ref:doc:uid:TempBookID-ReplacedWhenAssociatingWithMessierRev ision-43984SET_SC_1002-1016046

     

    After you've set up the hardware, Logics' mixer output channel strip(s) is where you can assign output(s). Though when you create a project from an empty template, the tracks you create in that project will automatically be routed to the main stereo output of the hardware you've set up in the prerferences.

  • 9. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    mdee Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    Take Eriksimon's advice and buy David's book! It is an excellent resource. You can purchase it off the website Eriksimon mentioned or you will find it list on Amazon. Comes with a DVD containing tutorial material. The website has a great forum for Logic Pro users.

  • 10. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,645 points)

    Kenneth Nielsen wrote

    I knew I would irk someone, I do have Garageband and that could be where I should stay, but Logic Pro offers so much more.

     

     

    If I am irked, (not saying I was mind you) it's only because, you're trying to run before you can walk. As a result you made the wrong assumption as to where the problem lies. If you don't understand the basics of what you're trying to do, errors are compounded and you move further away from an answer rather than closer, and that goes for any kind of professional DAW program whether it be Logic, Cubase, Protools, Digital Performer...etc.

     

    Go here:

     

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=2%26sec tion=0

     

    And read, Configuring Your Audio Hardware.

     

    It's the first place to look when you're not getting sound.. usually a General MIDI file with imbedded program changes will cause Logic to load instruments it thinks will work or be close.. you're pick shows that some instruments have been loaded,

  • 11. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,645 points)

    Kenneth Nielsen wrote

    but Logic Pro offers so much more.

     

     

    Only if you know how to use it... consider, a good engineer/musician can make a knock your socks off recording using a 4-track cassette recorder.

  • 12. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Kenneth Nielsen Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    "Go here:

     

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=2%26sec tion=0

     

    And read, Configuring Your Audio Hardware."

     

     

    Thank You Pancenter. I'm adding, and have just signed up for, a month's worth of Logic Pro one-on-one lessons where I'll bring what little I have to the table and let the teacher take me through these steps in person also. Classes start tomorrow night, so I'm thanking everyone here, including yourself for getting me onto the right track. The difference with Logic Pro I've noticed is there are a lot more people and resources to help than with most other DAW, except maybe for Pro Tools. I think staying with Logic will bring me tremendous growth in working with music at my humble home studio. Within a few months I would like to start having friends over to play acoustic instruments together with some singing also. I'll probably never go beyond a few microphones and an interface, but Logic Pro should become very accommodating to this end, especially after I spend some concentrated time with formal lessons.

  • 13. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Kenneth Nielsen Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Pancenter wrote:

     

     

    Kenneth Nielsen wrote

    but Logic Pro offers so much more.

     

     

     

    Only if you know how to use it... consider, a good engineer/musician can make a knock your socks off recording using a 4-track cassette recorder.

     

    This is true also with the craft I am familiar with: 'Photography.' You can give a fumbling beginner with no patience a 40 thousand dollar camera and another 40 thousand in lenses and gear and he won't be able to come up with anything close to what a true professional can do with a beginner's DSLR. Probably true in most professions. I've learned from watching the Professional Photographer's forums that the beginner is always welcome, but the one's who listen are the one's who gain the most. I'm listening here and have already recieved the best of the best advice. Now I have my sights set thanks to the excellent replies here.

     

    Ken

  • 14. Re: Need basic beginner help with output volume
    Kenneth Nielsen Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Eriksimon wrote:

     

    Kenneth Nielsen wrote:

     

    One thing I like about Adobe software is they have a series called 'Classroom In A Book' where they make sure you are given a proper run-through to set your software up properly. Do you know of any such book for Logic Pro 9? I Hadn't found one yet...

     

     

    This book, though it goes beyond only setting up:

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Pro-Training-Logic-Express/dp/0321636805?ie=UTF8&s=b ooks&qid=1252539968&sr=1-2

     

    and this website (owned by and actively run by the author of the above book):

    http://www.logicprohelp.com/index.php?file=home

     

    Your two questions can be answered by the manual (actually you set up the audio hardware in the preferences):

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=2%26sec tion=5%26hash=apple_ref:doc:uid:TempBookID-ReplacedWhenAssociatingWithMessierRe v ision-43984SET_SC_1002-1016046

     

    After you've set up the hardware, Logics' mixer output channel strip(s) is where you can assign output(s). Though when you create a project from an empty template, the tracks you create in that project will automatically be routed to the main stereo output of the hardware you've set up in the prerferences.

     

     

    All of this I will take with me to the classroom tomorrow night. I have a month's worth of lessons scheduled and will continue with one-on-one lessons until I can reach basic attainable goals with Logic Pro that will allow me to use this program for my small home recording needs with basically no limit on what can be accomplished in the future with it.

     

    All of my investment from this point will be in schooling.

     

    Much Thanks Eriksimon,

     

    Ken

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