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AceNeerav Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

Apple TV is finally available in India and I have been wanting to buy this since a long time. I want to know if it will be able to AirPlay avi files from mplayerx or qtX using perian or from iOS media players like Azul to Apple TV to watch my media on my lcd?

 

also, will th audio and video be in sync?

 

Neerav


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), 13 inch, 2.4 Ghz, Mid 2010
  • 1. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    Rudegar Level 6 Level 6 (19,510 points)

    it depend on the apps airplay itself mirror what the ios  display show

    but if the app is  made to block airplay it don't work

    and only iphone4S and later and ipad2 and later support it

    forget ipod touch generation

  • 2. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    AceNeerav Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

    Sorry but  didn't understand what you said? i'm not talking about airplay mirroring from mac. my mac is old and it doesn't support display mirroring to airplay. but it does support airplay video and audio to apple tv and airport express. i want to know if avi files will work.

  • 3. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    Rudegar Level 6 Level 6 (19,510 points)

    If what you mean if it can support it by access from a shared itunes lib then no this and only this is supported

    http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html

     

    "H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High or Main Profile level 4.0 or lower, Baseline profile level 3.0 or lower with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

    MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

    Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format"

  • 4. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    AceNeerav Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

    My avi files r not inside my itunes library. They r on an external portable drive.

  • 5. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    Rudegar Level 6 Level 6 (19,510 points)

    you need to convert the avi files to the supported formats

    add the files to itunes (this need not change where the files are stored)

    otherwise your appletv can't play them

  • 6. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    AceNeerav Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

    oh no... i'm not gonna take the pain to convert 300 gbs of videos to mp4!

     

    i guess no apple tv for me then...

     

    Neerav

  • 7. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    AceNeerav Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

    this is really lame. iOS devices dont have non native and software rendered playback cause they consume a lot of battery via cpu usage apart from gpu usage. that is understandable as a design choice for portable devices that run on battery. but I dont see why apple tvs should not play avi and other files.

     

    Neerav

  • 8. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (17,035 points)

    AceNeerav wrote:

     

    this is really lame. iOS devices dont have non native and software rendered playback cause they consume a lot of battery via cpu usage apart from gpu usage. that is understandable as a design choice for portable devices that run on battery. but I dont see why apple tvs should not play avi and other files.

     

    Neerav

    They never have, they won't in the future unless there's a major change in Apple's opinion on how you should be able to use your devices.

     

    AC

  • 9. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    Rudegar Level 6 Level 6 (19,510 points)

    AceNeerav wrote:

     

    this is really lame. iOS devices dont have non native and software rendered playback cause they consume a lot of battery via cpu usage apart from gpu usage. that is understandable as a design choice for portable devices that run on battery. but I dont see why apple tvs should not play avi and other files.

     

    Neerav

    it's not just a battery issue also a performance and skipping of frame issue

    AVI is not a format it's a container which can use 100's of difference video codecs

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave

    some likely ones which ios devices and atv which is the same hardware as ios devices

    would not be able to play back with a good framerate

     

    that being said then maybe apple didn't count of that large % of atv buyers had 300 gbs of home videos

    and putting a lot of afford into making their hardware (which I doubt they really make money on but make up for from itunes sales) support a wide range of possibly shady videos would not really make much sense

    at least if I were in apples shoes that would be my logic

     

    if you want to give apples a piece of your mind since this being a user helping user forum which they don't read or write use feedback

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/appletv.html

  • 10. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    AceNeerav Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

    Hello,

     

    I am pretty much familiar with container and component video. What i am saying is that if the rendering device has already undergone cpu cycles to soft render the video into a video stream that the gpu of a mac or an ios understand, then it should be understandable by the apple tv as well. Its not like its being made to decode no native codecs.

     

    In case the rendering happens inside the apple tv, then too there are 3rd party players that when loaded via jailbreaks can play avis. So i dont see why apple cant drop acid and let us make good use of our digital hub.

     

    I dont mind paying for mp4 content but its simply not available via itunes, in india.

  • 11. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    vazandrew Level 6 Level 6 (14,045 points)

    I would provide that feedback to them directly

  • 12. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (17,035 points)

    AceNeerav wrote:

     

    Hello,

     

    I am pretty much familiar with container and component video. What i am saying is that if the rendering device has already undergone cpu cycles to soft render the video into a video stream that the gpu of a mac or an ios understand, then it should be understandable by the apple tv as well. Its not like its being made to decode no native codecs.

     

    In case the rendering happens inside the apple tv, then too there are 3rd party players that when loaded via jailbreaks can play avis. So i dont see why apple cant drop acid and let us make good use of our digital hub.

     

    I dont mind paying for mp4 content but its simply not available via itunes, in india.

    AppleTV does normally decode an h264 stream sent to it via Airplay or pulled from itunes on a LAN.  The encoded video is decompressed locally to reduce the bandwidth needed to send decompressed video.

     

    While I appreciate AppleTV's could use other codecs, run browsers, email clients, games etc, Apple in their 'wisdom' have decided not to allow this as part of the AppleTV business model.

     

    Airplay Mirroring uses a form of screen sharing technology.

     

    AC

  • 13. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    AceNeerav Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)

    Browsers? Email clients? Games? What ru talking about!?

  • 14. Re: will apple tv "airplay" my avi files from ipad/phone/mac?
    Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (17,035 points)

    AceNeerav wrote:

     

    Browsers? Email clients? Games? What ru talking about!?

    AppleTV is a small computer.  It has an OS.  It could do anything you want it to within hardware limitations so the  same applies to video decoding of a multitude of codecs - it supports a handful of codecs it doesn't support others.  End of.  Apple have decided what codecs to support.  It is immaterial that it could support others if Apple chooses not to implement them.

     

    My point is that it could do any number of things that we often see requested here - 'why can't I have apps?', 'why no games?', 'why no Safari?', 'why no email on my TV?'.

     

    Can't you see that?

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