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  • 30. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (78,665 points)

    To answer Bob's idea of putting the Verizon/Actiontec router into bridge mode

    To clarify....was not my idea......was Dr Honeydew who asked about disabling the router feature of the gateway device.

     

    My ideas in this thread are all centered on using the AirPort Extreme in Bridge Mode.

     

    Sorry, I don't run a web or FTP server, so cannot help on your particular setup.

  • 31. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    brichi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    is it possible to do this wirelessly? extend my network? here is my situation, similar

     

    i have a fios wireless router installed, i want to put my airport extreme in the middle of my house and have it wirelessly extend the signal so it covers more of my house. I know you can do this with apple to apple airports but not sure if it can be done wirelessly from fios wireless router to airpot. Thanks!

  • 32. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (78,665 points)

    is it possible to do this wirelessly?

    It would be extremely unlikely that this would work since Apple has designed the "extend" feature to only work with other Apple routers.

  • 33. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    dg68 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    For anyone else interested, I did find a solution.

     

    If yours was a more recent FiOS install, you probably have ethernet already connecting between the ONT and your Verizon Actiontec router.  You may lose a couple of minor features if you also have their TV package (onscreen caller ID and Windows Mediashare ... but we don't need that ... psh). You can basically use the AEBS as the first connection off your ONT and hang the Actiontec off one of the AEBS' LAN ports so you still get their MoCA network access to things like the set-top-box's guides and multiroom DVR. 

     

    In short:

     

    • Login to the Actiontec control panel, release the WAN IP, and once the light turns orange, power it down. 
    • Power down your set-top-boxes as well. 
    • Connect the ONT's ethernet feed directly to your WAN port on the AEBS, let it acquire the connection. 
    • Once you can successfully connect to the internet on an AEBS-networked device, hang the Actiontec off one of the LAN ports, and power it up ...

     

    Voila, it works ..  The existing AEBS and Airport Express-extended wireless network works as it did, and your FiOS TV service is still functional in all but those minor features.

     

    If for some reason you get stuck on the step with your AEBS not connecting to the internet off the ONT's feed, call Verizon tech support and gently ask them to break the router's DHCP lease.  This will allow the AEBS to pick it up and get connected.

     

    So far so good here. Now I'm only up against the inconsistent ability of one of my Macs to connect with Gigabit ethernet via switches...  It's quite a problem to think of an internet connection that gets bottlenecked by flaky ethernet ports dropping to 100BT

  • 34. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Ajb74 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Dg68, is your guest network working under that setup? I don't use the Verizon router at all, I have an Ethernet cable from the ONT directly to AEBS, everything works fine but when I enable guest network it connects but does not have Internet, if I reset the AEBS to factory settings and enable guest network it works for few hours then it just looses Internet connection, I have tried 2 AEBS and same issue, any ideas.

  • 35. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Judith Lieberman Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    Hi.

    I apologize for using a PC, but need it for sewing and embroidery software. Its wireless card is non-working. I have an airport extreme and would like to wirelessly extend my Verizon fios network, connecting the PC to it via Ethernet into the extreme.  I set up wds with the airport admin utility from my old ibook. It sees my Verizon network, no problem. However, I can't connect to the Internet. Do the networks on Verizon and airport need to have the same name?  How could I find out what ip addresses  are being distributed by the fios router in order to put one in manually?  Any help with settings would be appreciated.  It seems as though I should need to put the fios passwordinto the extreme at some point, but it never asked for it.  I can use my husband's intel iMac to access airport if that would work better.

    Thanks. I am feeling stupid.

  • 36. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Phil Horvitz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just had a FIOS installation (replacing Comcast) and they are running Coax between the ONT and the ActionTec Router. 

     

    Trying to do the same thing with the AEBS and other Airport Express devices, but not sure how this can be accomplished in this configuration.

     

    Any ideas?

  • 37. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    technolawyer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have a FIOS router that I plug into an Airport Extreme (fourth generation). I thought I'd share two tips as I recently solved a problem in which my FIOS upload speed would drop off a cliff and a Java app that I use in enterprise software would slow to a crawl.

     

    1. I solved this problem by plugging the FIOS router directly into my Mac mini and then turning off the security settings. I also recommend turning off WiFi. Maybe I'm wrong but because I'm using security on my Airport Extreme, I don't think you need it on the FIOS router. Anyway this solved my problem. Upload speed is normal and the Java app works just as fast as in my office.

     

    2. If you're a little more adventurous you can try this:

    http://www.marco.org/2011/01/15/how-to-use-your-own-router-with-fios

  • 38. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    icejam Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for this... extremely quick and simple!

  • 39. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Stagg85 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    SO, it was very simple to use the AEBS as primary router.  I have 75/35 service.  Has anyone checked relative speed difference between using actiontec as primary and using AEBS?  My downloads are great (above 75) but it appears that I took a dramatic  speed hit on upload speed.  Any thoughts?

  • 40. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    robmstein Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Bob - I know you posted this a while ago, but I just got FIOS, having had Cable up to now.   I encountered the Double NAT warning from my AirPort Extreme.   I have the wireless transmission on the Verizon router (Actiontec MI424WR) turned off. It was working fine in Double NAT mode, but as you said, may encounter some conflicts at some point.   I put my AirPort Extreme in Bridge Mode.   My only question - does this create any security vulnerabilities?   Does Bridge Mode disable and previous protections that I had or does this all now get done in the Verizon Router? How is security handled now?   Thanks.

  • 41. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (78,665 points)

    My only question - does this create any security vulnerabilities?

    No

  • 42. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Justinxninja Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey I have modem and it has a wan port and I have a apple airport extreme so should I connect Modem wan port to apple airport extreme wan port or Modem LAN port to apple airport extreme LAN port plz help me guys plz

  • 43. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    Justinxninja Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey I have modem and it has a wan port and I have a apple airport extreme so should I connect Modem wan port to apple airport extreme wan port or Modem LAN port to apple airport extreme wan port plz help me guys plz

  • 44. Re: Airport Extreme and Verizon FIOS Router?
    LaPastenague Level 8 Level 8 (35,400 points)

    WAN port a modem has to go to your internet connection. if it is a dual wan router or has secondary wan for future fibre connection for instance.. then use the LAN port.. although WAN might be assigned to LAN in normal usage. Check the manual of the modem.

     

    If the modem is router.. and the Airport Extreme is set to bridge use any port.. but we normally use WAN on the TC by convention that is the connection to internet.. but in bridge.. the AE has no wan port. So actually any port would be fine.

     

    To keep it simple.. LAN on modem to WAN on the AE.