Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 6:20 AM (in response to bench_blob)
Can your Mac handle Snow Leopard?
If so, I would suggest that you spend the $20 at the Apple online sore and install it. It is a more efficient System than Leopard.
Regarding the 'Page outs', are they more than 10% of 'Page ins"? If not, then more RAM will probably not be beneficial.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 10:20 AM (in response to OGELTHORPE)
Thanks for response. I currently have Version 10.8.3 Mountain Lion and definitely would replace with Snow Leopard if that resolve slowness. Running about 50% slower than it used to. If I replace my OS with Leopard, would that resolve any possible viruses that I might have or miscellaneous programs floating around in the ether? (Ether = Technical Lingo )
My Page Outs and Page Ins are about equal. Actually Page Outs are 3.71 GBs. Page Ins are 3.19 GBs.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 12:34 PM (in response to bench_blob)
In your post you indicate that you have Leopard (10.5.8) installed. That is the reason I was suggesting Snow Leopard. Now you indicate the you have Mt. Lion as your OS. OGELTHORPE does not like being deceived .
In a serious vein, Snow Leopard is still the most efficient OS that Apple has created. It may help but you would have to sacrifice some Mt. Lion features.
Your 'Page ins' and 'Page outs' ratio is astounding. More RAM would be a step in the right direction. According to Mactracker, your iMac (model 7.1) can utilize 6 GB RAM. That would be a good enhancement. if you have not done so already.
This is a user tip from the Macbook Pro forum but it is still applicable to your situation. Read it over and post back if you need some more assistance or initiate a new post.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 12:44 PM (in response to OGELTHORPE)
The Mountain Lion can jump off a cliff and get attack by herd of Water Buffaloes for all I care. If a Mountain Lion had to deal with the slowness I have been experiencing for last two months, it would not survive one day in the jungle before being attacked by a horde of Ravenous Turtles.
What is so astounging about my Page In and Page Out ratio? Should I take it as a compliment?
I am going to run to Apple store and get Snow Leopard today. $20 is a safe bet. I figured an alternative however might to "clear RAM" if that can be done. Like I said, I am not running 10-15 programs at once. 2 to 3 tops. I do have a lot of Tabs Open on my Browser, howver (usually around a dozen).
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 12:55 PM (in response to OGELTHORPE)
When I go to Activity Monitor > System Memory, my available Free Memory is barely a sliver. There is no green on the pie (No Green on the Pie = More technical lingo ) I hope my computer doesn't blow up. Should I have a fire extinguisher close by just in case?
Seriously, I was Quitting Processes, but that didn't seem to free up space.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 12:57 PM (in response to bench_blob)
Snow Leopard DVD can only be ordered from the online Apple store. Please see my previous link. The retail stores will not have it in stock.
As far as the Page ratio, I have never seen it that high. It just indicates that you are using applications that are going back to your HDD a lot.
Have you maxed out the RAM? If not, that should be the top priority.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 1:05 PM (in response to OGELTHORPE)
Thanks for saving me a trip, was on my way out the door.
I have not added any RAM.
OK...I am going to close every application and reboot my computer, should that not free up RAM?
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 1:10 PM (in response to bench_blob)
Yes, but get more! Best sources are OWC and Crucial. According to Mactraker, a 20" mid 2007 iMac (model 7.1) RAM has the following specifications: 200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM.
Do not deviate from those.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 1:34 PM (in response to OGELTHORPE)
Found this Crucial RAM at new egg dot com...
Will it make a big difference, i.e worth the $!65? Can I install it myself or do you recommend I take it to Apple???
By the way, I rebooted by computer, my Free Memory shot up to about 30% of the pie. Then, after about 10 minutes, its back to the miniscule levels as before.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 1:53 PM (in response to bench_blob)
You are attacking this incorrectly. Go to the OWC and Crucial websites and enter you model number and get exactly what RAM they specify for your iMac. It will be a 2 GB and a 4 GB chips. Installing two 4 GB chips is throwing money away.
This is from the OWC website:
Check out the Crucial website. They have a scanner program that will determine the proper RAM for your iMac. See what the price is there. If you are a cheapskate like me, get the part numbers and search Newegg and Amazon for possible cheaper prices.
Yes, you should be able to install the RAM your self. The OWC website has videos that will explain that. This is the link:
As far as cost/benefits are concerned, my take is yes.