Currently Being ModeratedApr 9, 2013 3:38 PM (in response to Ageda)
No one is forcing anyone to do anything when it comes to using apple products.
Sure, with Jobs gone apple is going to be (already is) a lesser company. Will they eventually become irrelevant? Probably not. Smaller, definitely.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 12, 2013 10:09 PM (in response to cargaut)
I think it's amazing that this thread has gone on this long. I have been sick of itunes 11 since I first downloaded it and everytime I open it, I find something else I can't stand about it. The main thing I remember about previous versions is that it was much easier to build playlists then transfer them to my iphone/ipod. I can't do that anymore. **** I can't even add songs to an existing playlist already on my iphone. I have to find loop holes and do weird crap just to build a playlist that I want on my **** phone.
I'm glad I'm not the only here who hates this version and its very unfortunate this thread has gotten this long right on apple's website and they don't even care to respond to it.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 8:20 AM (in response to DungHo)
How can you revert back to a previous version of iTunes? I find the new one useless.....very unintuitive. Can't find any way to get photos into my iPod, and no instructions for version 11 are online. Anyone have any ideas?
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 8:23 AM (in response to Keith-g2)
Apple has billions in cash, lots of employees, lots of attention from investors and users, and they can't fix this awful program or release a version that enhances earlier versions instead of replacing useful features with some new feature that they think is better? There really is no reasonable excuse to let this go on for month after month unless the objective is to shrink their customer base and loyalty.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 8:34 AM (in response to swhack)
There's gotta be plenty of instructions floating around the web - considering how many people are reverting. I'm only hands-on-familiar reverting to an earlier version on the windows platform.
But anyhow, this goes to show you how much (or little) a company will respect their customers. But they don't even care to comment on the situation. Not that that's surprising or anything.. I wonder what the fanbois think of this?
They might have billions of dollars and thousands of investors and even more customers than all that put together - Which is why they don't care about a few piddly tedious itunes problems.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 10:02 AM (in response to DungHo)
I don't know, but I would suspect not a lot. If there was a big difference, they'd have addressed the problem already.
Problem for the old schoolers here is that noobs are always coming into the apple eco-sphere; and these noobs are thinking itunes 11 is the normal way to do things.
Apple knows that and just has to wait it out, if they're concerned at all. Which I suspect they're not.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 10:47 AM (in response to Keith-g2)
I fear you are correct.
It is this total disregard for loyal customers which is turning me off Apple and its products. There is inertia - I spent a lot of time to digitise my music library and used i-Tunes to organise this. Plus there's my i-Tunes purchases.
However, I am so unimpressed with this version of i-Tunes and the complete lack of response from Apple on releasing such an awful product to rectify issues of evident concern to its existing "loyal" customer base, that I fear I will have to put in the time to move my library out of i-Tunes. They will then lose my custom in terms of future i-Tunes store purchases.
I don't want to do this - it wastes my time - but if I cannot trust Apple to be there for me, I will have to.
I note the recent car crash that was Apple Maps - they have lost the plot. If they only want to produce pretty apps for the mindless, rather than intuitive and functional products of style, it is time to move on. Others will react to fill the void left by Apple's stupidity.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 11:47 AM (in response to CiderPress)
I got an email with a link to youtube with the title "How to Downgrade iTunes 11 to 10.7" -- I went to the link in the e-mail message, and the Apple website tells me I'm unauthorized to view the content. Maybe sending a youtube URL (link) causes them to deny access, not sure.
Anyway, the youtube title above will get instructions for Windows (not Mac) and you'd need to do it fairly soon after installing version 11, so that you still have some earlier version itunes library itl files since it's needed to replace the one created by version 11 once iTunes 10.7 is installed.
It seems to me that a small program could go through the steps of saving the itl file from version 11 (should things not go well) then uninstall version 11, then install version 10, then copy the most recent itl that looks like a version 10 layout into the right location, rename it, and voila, should work.
But why can't this be a downloadable "fix" ??
Also, not sure if a similarly simple set of steps exists for my MacBook, as doing anything inside the file system on an apple system is new to folks like me who recently went with Apple (after the iPhone and iPad came out) and are new to Apple's various animal named operating systems. I think I have Snow Leopard, or Mountain Lion, or Wildalbeast, not sure.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 12:00 PM (in response to DrJeff_92677)
The post with the link the video probably got deleted. A common reason for this type of removal is that the poster has a commercial interest in directing you to the link which they failed to declare, and someone else reported it.
I've covered roll back instructions earlier in this very thread, along with tips for getting the best out iTunes 11. The process is essentially the same on either Windows or Mac. Specific instrucutions for rolling back iTunes on a Mac are given here...
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 12:51 PM (in response to cargaut)
I lost every single playlist I had and have no idea how to get them back. Also, the songs in the song list all are prefaced with numbers. Where did they come from? I never had problems with the older version. Oh yeah, they dropped the album names on many songs as well. The last upgrade is what really screwed me up. Guess I have to remove all the numbers so I can sort the titles and rebuilt a gazillinon plyalists. itunes ***** right now and I have a lot of info changes to do to get everyting back. All my videos are also gone. I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 2:59 PM (in response to turingtest2)
I joined Apple with the purchase of a 3g iphone and that introduced me to itunes. At the time, I was impressed. Enough to get an ipad and then and ipad2 and a 4s.
I think that'll do me. Unless there's a major revamp of this bloated piece of crap software, I want nothing more to do with a company that seems to have forgottten how it got so big and successful.
I've re-installed iTunes half a dozen times because of continuous crashes. It works for a while, then goes right back to causing problems. Songs that won't add, podcasts that won't delete, duplicate files, unreliable iCloud...it's a mess. SJ must be spinning in his grave.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 13, 2013 3:20 PM (in response to turingtest2)
I replied with a link to the video. It does not surprise me that the link should have been removed, but I would just like to say that I have no link to or commercial interest in the video or any product or service it advertises (it doesn't anyway). It is just a guide on how to revert to iTunes 10.7 and it worked for me - just trying to be helpful to those finding themselves in the same position I found myself in.
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