HT2838: Mac Pro (Early 2008 to Mid 2012): About the PCI Express slots
Learn about Mac Pro (Early 2008 to Mid 2012): About the PCI Express slots
Q: Archived. This means Apple won't be making any new Mac Pros with PCIe slots?
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Apr 12, 2013 2:26 PMby joevt,I can beleive that but I just don't understand the need to archive an article that also contains information about current Mac Pros. Is there another article that explains the PCIe slots of the Mac Pro 2012? (Slots 1 and 2 are x16 slots, and slots 3 and 4 are x4 slots). I suppose archiving an article doesn't mean the information is obsolete but it seems kind of premature. Stating that an article won't be updated doesn't make sense. An article never needs to be updated until it does...
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Apr 12, 2013 2:49 PMby The hatter,Where is your bowl of salt? Get it out! They have writers to obfurcate, not illucidate.
The article should have been about Expansion Slot Utility.
Maybe it means PCIe is dead, long live PCIe.
Still, PCIe in 2008 was and is so Old/New mix that some SATA controllers don't work in that machine and don't boot or not supported and certified. Nor is its EFI64 exactly UEFI standard. But that will never see a firmware or SMC update. Its 2600XT was also a sad little card. Or the GT120s just don't get along with a 2nd card in Mountain Lion.
Archive seems to mean 2007 is old enough that we are archiving you into the history books.
It was March 2007 6 yrs ago that the 2,1 8-core came out.
With 4K format for video there is more demand than ever for bandwidth and lanes.
I just want to see PCIe 3.x offering.
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Apr 12, 2013 3:49 PMby Eustace Mendis,• This article has been archived and is no longer updated by Apple.
I read this to mean that the article is no longer being updated by Apple, and it is therefore described as "archived".
Wikipedia provides this: An archive is an accumulation of historical records, or the physical place they are located.
The archiving of an article about PCI does not imply that PCI is dead.
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Jun 4, 2013 11:23 AMby joevt,There is a rumor: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57587367-37/
It says the new Mac Pros will have no internal expandability and will be heavily reliant on Thunderbolt. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I have no problem with moving devices out of the box (storage/graphics/optical devices/etc) as long as those devices can have the same performance. It means buying a new computer won't require buying those devices again. However, a Thunderbolt port is only equivelent to a PCIe 2.0 x2 (1 channel) or x4 (2 channels) slot. Any PCIe card will work with fewer lanes but will have less performance. Graphics cards are x16 but don't always require the bandwidth of all 16 lanes. Anything that can transfer near 2000 MB/s will be limited by Thunderbolt.
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by Grant Bennet-Alder,Jun 4, 2013 11:35 AM
Grant Bennet-Alder
Jun 4, 2013 11:35 AM
in response to Eustace Mendis
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DesktopsAlmost every word of that article applies to the PCI slot Utility, which went obsolete with the release of the 2009 model.
Now in 2013, it is not at all surprising that the ARTICLE will no longer be updated.
One cannot draw ANY conclusions about PCIe slots themselves based on the article going obsolete, except that whatever solution is in future Macs will not require the current version of PCI slot Utility.
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Nov 4, 2014 6:46 PMby dkim95120,What I'm getting is that in many cases, Apple is slowly becoming aware of the massive espionage that has infiltrated the company. Remote KVM, keyboard/video/mouse, Remote Display Overlays, User Interface, Keyboard Access, Monitoring Everything, Captured Boot Sequence, Opaque Boot Binaries, New Data Formats preventing/confusing Access, GUI identifiers preventing Keyboard Access, Confusing Key Shortcuts, Menus. Full spectrum espionage.
