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  • 15. Re: java runtime... please help...
    soupcook Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I appreciate the reply. It just seems a little wierd that Apple is this difficult to deal with. If they take the "Big Brother" role and dictate to 100,000's of Mac users that their computer will or will not work with Java, then they should be working very hard on the Users' behalf to resolve the issue. We have business to conduct and cannot.

     

    Java requires that help be paid for by the minute. That is not helpful...especially if Java blames Apple for the issue (I don't know what they will actually do). But the Java site says Java 7 Version 17 will fix the issue...it has not for me (and others it appears).

  • 16. Re: java runtime... please help...
    panahead Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    what is strange is that java works on 1 laptop and not the others? and that they are all running the same osx.. same safari... same airport... etc... also that java works with firefox and not safari makes me think that it is safari related?

  • 17. Re: java runtime... please help...
    soupcook Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I fixed my issue...I downloaded Firefox and the ROES software I was trying to download, downloaded quickly and correctly. I don't want to use Firfox, but Apple does not seem yoo concerned about this issue.

     

    If Apple can block Mac users from Java, they should be able to repair the issues just as easily.

     

    Oh well, now I have another option.

     

    Thanks, everyone.

  • 18. Re: java runtime... please help...
    panahead Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i would still like to be able to use safari and have java work with it... i am puzzled as to why it works on 1 machine and not another.... i dont blame apple as much as i would like to find the solutuon or fix to the problem....

  • 19. Re: java runtime... please help...
    R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (14,175 points)

    Maybe this is too obvious & something you have already tried, but have you checked the Security settings in Safari's preferences?

     

    java pref.png

     

    soupcook: Apple isn't blocking anybody from using Java, but it does recommend that you not enable it unnecessarily because even though Oracle (its owner & developer) keeps patching it, it is easily the greatest security threat to Mac users. The only known "drive by" malware exploit that has affected Macs used a vulnerability in Java to do so. ("Drive by" attacks just require you to visit a maliciously crafted web page to become infected. You do not need to click on or install anything.)

  • 20. Re: java runtime... please help...
    panahead Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    thanks for trying to help me.... i have checked the box in safari settings... i have no idea what is wrong?

     

    safari security settings jpeg.jpg

  • 21. Re: java runtime... please help...
    panahead Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i have a gut feeling that it has something to do with the security permisissions? that maybe i should try and clear the permissions cache? that safari is sending the websit the incorrect permissions? does that make any sense at all? with firefox i get a pop up asking "do i trust this website" but nothing with safari... i disabled the "block pop ups" tab... but that didnt help...

  • 22. Re: java runtime... please help...
    panahead Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i have a gut feeling that it has something to do with the security permisissions? that maybe i should try and clear the permissions cache? that safari is sending the websit the incorrect permissions? does that make any sense at all? with firefox i get a pop up asking "do i trust this website" but nothing with safari... i disabled the "block pop ups" tab... but that didnt help...

  • 23. Re: java runtime... please help...
    soupcook Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, it is checked. My comment that Apple blocked Java on all the Mac's came from several news sources and from the posts in this site, it appears to be true to me. I have been frustrated by computer issues from time-to-time since the early '80's when I purchased my first computer...TI-99.

     

    This issue takes the cake. Java did not cause the issue of access to Java. I didn't create the issue...Apple created the issue by being Big Brother and globally blocking Java.

     

    Maybe it was the right decision...but it was not my decision. Now here I sit communicating with a lot of other well-intentioned users to resolve an issue that Apple created by blocking my access to Java. Where is the Apple experts who should be offering us assistance? They are sitting on their hands to protect the image and reputation of Apple (IMHO). (Maybe that is unfair?)

     

    At least with the PC, I could do whatever stupid thing I wanted to do and then pay to recover from it. Somehow I muddled through all those years without Bill Gates shutting off access to programs like Java.

     

    Anyway, I am beginning to like Firefox....

  • 24. Re: java runtime... please help...
    R C-R Level 6 Level 6 (14,175 points)

    soupcook wrote:

    This issue takes the cake. Java did not cause the issue of access to Java. I didn't create the issue...Apple created the issue by being Big Brother and globally blocking Java.

    Apple did not 'globally block Java.'

     

    For instance, it has most recently provided Java for OS X 2013-002 for 10.7 & later OS versions (including Mountain Lion). That uninstalls the Apple-provided Java SE 6 applet plugin (which only runs Java applets in browsers); however, if you encounter a web page that needs a Java applet plugin, you just need to click on the "Missing plugin" region on the page to download the latest version directly from Oracle, who is now responsible for supplying that for OS 10.7 & beyond.

     

    I suggest that instead of just relying on news reports & user posts alone, you also consider going to http://www.apple.com/support/ & enter that appropriate term in the search box. If you do this using "Java" as the search term you will get the relevant info directly from Apple.

  • 25. Re: java runtime... please help...
    panahead Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    thank you!!! thank you!!! and thank you again!!!

     

    by clicking on the "missing plugin" i have solved my problem and can now use java with safari on all 3 machines!!!

     

    seems it was very simple... but... i just never thought to click on the "missing plug" message....

     

    thank you for you help!!!

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