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Apr 15, 2013 6:36 AM in response to nessfromsaby vinnyvg,Vanessa, you make a good point... but its not so much out of control... its just go too long and too much is repeated.
I blame Apple for the lack of "suport". I have said previously that "Apple" seem to assume that all users are between age16 and age21 with a PHD in Technology and Inter continental ballistic Missiles and a brain that can suck in information. I am loath to say.. "they" also seem to assume that all useres are fluent English speakers.
Any time I have offered advice.. its only on something I have actaully done myself and not offered theory that if it works in another similar application.. it must also work in iBA.
The other problem is most peopel cannot understand why Apple insist in the EIN when other USA based companies like Cafepress and Zazzle etal do not ask for thus and accept scanned and emailed copies if simple to fill forms.
OK IF Apple had an explanation.. tell people why and then give a step by step route to application accessible for any part of the world. Its not always easy.
Then we have a confusion of telephone numbers and Myths about how tax is collected and how much troubl e there is with tax returns in two countries ( I would have to deal - it seems with UK, USA and Aussie tax offices!)
The other thing thats missing is a forum.. one where we can send PM and contact people to ask questions or get phone numbers - which is not the remit of this support site. I thought of putting one online myself ... but its better if a more savvy person got involved in a none Apple eBooks forum with an iBA section!.
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BTW.. I was just looked at a return from Zazzle Form 1042-S Foreign Persons US Source Income Subject to WIthholding,
It notifies Gross Income and nothing was withheld
Section 11 Withholding Agent EIN the box is marked with an X and it appears I have an EIN number allocated !!
That is if an EIN number is 77-0518XXX ( Xs to hide numbers!)
Perhaps an EIN number holder can comment.
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May 3, 2013 7:43 PM in response to trilogy1000by vinnyvg,This is an old thread, but checking elsewhere in the forum for EIN information, it occurs to me that a great many of those who use the forum have plodded through the applications process and in the last 12 months had to deal with the tax situation i.e. declarations and end results.
There is still confusion and threads still start by those lost in teh maze.
Perhaps a few of the EIN armed authors can - without disclossing cash details or personal info -write up a summary of the EIN application, and how its affected them.
Many seem concerend about dealing with USA tax returns and then having to deal with their own country of residence tax offices.
I suppose its also split into groups - those who create books and for the iBS and other online publishers
and those who see it as a hobby which can earn a small income.
Just a thought.....
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May 30, 2013 10:32 PM in response to vinnyvgby PeterBreis0807,Actually in many places an international call can quickly add up to a pretty sum and I''ll lay odds on the 20 minutes stretching out to a lot longer. Having succeeded, there will the additional accountancy costs by citizens totally unfamiliar with US tax returns. This is not an expense or barrier to US authors.
Most authors will be lucky to get anything back on their work, to make them pay for the privilege, even when not charging for their work, is rubbing salt in their wounds.
I see this as a huge stumbling block for most non-US citizens and I consider it quite unnecessary, when the final product is treated as a local product for tax and pricing purposes by Apple but strictly US for the authoring. Can't have it both ways. Or you can, but it rightly p...s people off.
Peter
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May 31, 2013 6:18 AM in response to PeterBreis0807by vinnyvg,I dont know which country you are in.. but in Sydney Australia, I purchased a $10 Hello Phone card. The call I made took about 15 minutes or so.. but allow it can vary.
The call cost me $0.50c
First download the SS4 form and fill it in before you make a telephone call.
Phone the number 0011 - 267-941-1099 its option 1 for EIN
The agent will take 1 minute to recite his or her identification number.
SAy you need to request an EIN as a requirement of Apple Inc book sellers application.
if not asked state you have a filled in SS4 to assist the process.
Then asnwer the questions put to you.
Its a serious procerss and they do not rush and if in doubt will ask you to repeat an answer or clarify a spelling.
If you can use A - Apple, B-Baker- C - Cat type alphabet "code" it helps.
You are given the number over the phone and a letter will arrive after about 2 weeks.
Thats it after the call is over it takes at least 2 weeks to be seen by Apple.
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Jul 14, 2013 7:09 PM in response to john buck1by BillyJoeC,Hello jamy,s I have been asked by my employer to set up an itunes contract to sell materials via itunes. I noticed in your original comments almost a year ago you referred to being in Australia and also going through a local representative to set up your account rather than filing for a US Tax Id. Can you please provide me with details on how I can go about doing the same thing since I also live in Australia and have the same dilemna? I appreciate so much your help on this. Thanks
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Aug 5, 2013 11:50 PM in response to john buck1by lev770,Could you please remove my name? I am not the owner of the business, just of the domain name.
Thank you
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Aug 6, 2013 5:23 AM in response to lev770by vinnyvg,The posts are not editable after 15 minutes.
I think you would need to contact Apple Support, or you could use the "Report Post" and ask that, what you consider is mis-information, - be removed.
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Aug 7, 2013 12:32 AM in response to john buck1by lev770,I just spent 2 hours calling different apple numbers no one is helping or knows how to remove a post. Please think twice before putting someones name on the internet. This results is the first that shows on Google when searching for me it is actually hurting me.
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Jan 6, 2014 11:19 AM in response to K Tby DerekOuellette,If you sell a book in the ibookstore, you have to pay taxes on it whether or not you're a US citizen. Hence, the original question. But thanks for coming out.
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Feb 20, 2014 8:51 PM in response to Radoslavby symphonicjorge,If you are a foreign individual (non US citizen or US resident) AND If you have a EIN + provide it on a W8-BEN
Do you get taxes withheld at all (ie: 0% ?)
Is there still withholding if and/or not if the US has a tax treaty? (So if there is a country with no treaty, if there is a EIN, do you get withheld 5,9,30% or anything?)
Lastly, does a foreign individual have to pay and/or file taxes? If so, a 1040EZ?
How would a company like iTunes report to a foreign individual? 1042-S?
Any help would be great.
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Feb 21, 2014 4:42 AM in response to symphonicjorgeby Tom Gewecke,symphonicjorge wrote:
if there is a country with no treaty, if there is a EIN, do you get withheld 5,9,30% or anything?
I think the answer to that one is "30".
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Feb 21, 2014 1:21 PM in response to symphonicjorgeby vinnyvg,Repeat posting of your question is not a good idea. Especially digging up old threads.
Taxes are due from any sales you make. Most countries have reciprical arangements and any taxes deducted by Apple should be included in your own national tax return, .. if you make income in your own country, its taxable and Apple sales should be added to your tax return.
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Feb 21, 2014 3:43 PM in response to vinnyvgby PeterBreis0807,Even though the US government has already taxed you?
Peter
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Feb 21, 2014 4:52 PM in response to PeterBreis0807by vinnyvg,Most countries have reciprical arangements and any taxes deducted by Apple should be included in your own national tax return,
Each countries laws may differ BUT I am sure they all require any income over "day job" income - to be included in annual tax returns. BUT the declaration should include any documents from Apple showing tax has been deducted @ $?????? .
Then no addional tax will be levied on Apple earnings.Not sure how the countries work together to shift money or about tax laws and "working" in different countries. Its possible they get together at year and and the USA say.. we collected $3 billion from iBooks sales from your country residents.... and " your country" will reply, well we collected $2 billion from USA workers here - so send us the $1 billion difference!
Apple take 30% off the gross, and its a sales commission NOT a tax deduction
I am sure the authors tax is levied on the gross figure, the 30% can be claimed back as " cost of sales."
I am no tax expert so anybody with tax issues needs to see an account and if in doubt, contact your local tax office to clarify your individual circumstances.
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Feb 21, 2014 6:04 PM in response to vinnyvgby PeterBreis0807,So for the piddly amount of return on the massive amount of work:
1. Start an entirely irrelevant Tax Return in a foreign country*
2. Be taxed in the hope of getting it back later
3. Claim Apple's cut as a cost from the gross amount taxed
4. Pay for a foreign tax expert and lawyer to work this all out for you
5. Pay tax again in Australia
* Apple has the gall to charge us GST and local taxes here in Australia to justify its higher "costs", then tells the Australian Tax Office that the transaction did not take place here in Australia, but in Singapore, therefore Apple should not pay Australian tax.
Peter