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Am I the only one to HATE the new iTunes?!

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  • Rockiemountie Calculating status...
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    Apr 18, 2013 8:54 PM (in response to cargaut)

    Unbelievable!!! Just makes me want to use it less and go back to a PC player... Grrrrrrrrr

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,340 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 8:58 AM (in response to Dean Brian Scott)

    Dean Brian Scott wrote:


    Should I file suit against Apple for allowing this virus to come up as an update?

    I think you should, it will be interesting to see how you fare, go ahead.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,340 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 8:59 AM (in response to KerynLilacs)

    KerynLilacs wrote:


    I now officially HATE apple and want to sell all my 5 macs and get a pc.

    It's just stress from beginning to end. I feel sick.

    I will buy your Macs, you can use that money for your PC.

  • Skier7667 Calculating status...
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    Apr 19, 2013 10:52 AM (in response to beerandnikes)

    It's amazing to read these comments about iTunes. I recently over the holidays purchased an iPod Touch 5 G and am pretty much happy with it. But when I started using iTunes I was amazed on how awkward it is. They have a lot of content, but the navigation and visual UI leaves much to be desired. It's almost old fashioned. How could they have succeeded in that marketplace with that interface? How could the users think this is awesome. They just haven't been exposed to something better or different and are blinded by the excellent Apple marketing. Yes, it is superb!


    I've had Windows Zune devices for several years, the 120 and the HD. Both work flawlessly, sound incredible and interface with the Zune software without a hitch right out of the box from day one. Zune is now Xbox Music, but it's the same, only even better.


    I still to this day (been at it since November of 2012) can't get iTunes to open up without getting UAC control messages that iTunes might be a rouge program. I can't play an iTunes tutorial or video podcast without the audio sounding choppy. Experimenting, I had to set iTunes 64 bit for Windows 7 in Compatibility mode for Windows XP to play a video correctly. I cant' even drag & drop from Windows Explorer to iTunes as the instructions say, not allowed unless I turn UAC off. Didn't they program it correctly to work in Windows? If it wasn't for Windows, they wouldn't have sold all the hardware they did. I know it works perfectly on Mac's.


    I'd be afraid to purchase a movie from iTunes due to the choppy video. On the Windows Zune software side - no problems ever. I hope I'll be able to resolve the problems, because the iTouch is very nice, but the software interface is very sad. I expected something far superior to Zune, but was very disappointed. Wish I could sync my iTouch with my Zune/Xbox Music software, but unfortunately you can't.


    Those that think iTunes is awesome or not awesome, should really take a close look at the Zune/Xbox Music. If you have Window 8, you already and with subscription you can stream full songs unlimited and not have to pay except for what you want to purchase. I fortunately was grandfathered in, so I have a year pass unlimited streaming, plus 120 songs that I get to download and keep, legally DRM free.

  • KerynLilacs Calculating status...
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    Apr 19, 2013 1:26 PM (in response to Csound1)

    lol - might just see if they actually sort the problem out ... so far they have tried to blow me off with an FAQ, and told me to do everything I've already done. Round 2

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,340 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 1:31 PM (in response to KerynLilacs)

    I was hoping for 5 Macs, but this may be a more sensible approach

  • KerynLilacs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 1:34 PM (in response to Csound1)

    LOL - thanks for the cheery, uplifting response, in the face of my frustration.

  • DrJeff_92677 Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 2:00 PM (in response to Chris CA)

    ChrisCA -- do you really think it's helpful, or even mature, to keep needling Keryn ?? Why do you do it ?  Just wondering.

  • turingtest2 Level 8 Level 8 (43,940 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 2:01 PM (in response to KerynLilacs)

    If iTunes dumped your media see this post.


    If you're not getting on with the new look see this one.



  • Keith-g2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 2:08 PM (in response to KerynLilacs)

    Yep. Doesn't surprise me. This is typical "big corporation" behavior. Please understand that just about every corporation, when examined as an individual legal entity, exhibits all the behavior of a bona-fide psychotic. With the underlying theme of relentless drive for profit.


    This personality type is basically all ME ME ME, and the $@^# with you. I'm afraid the only long-term solution is to simply not use their products.


    The one good sign is that this version has been out for a long time, and there have been no incremental updates in like 6 months or something like that. Perhaps it is being re-done as we speak? Who's to say?


    Anyhow, I stopped updating iTunes past version 10.7. I really REALLY like (and use) those older versions, especially 9. In fact, my main music center is built around 9.


    Once 11 came out - that's when I stopped updating and proceeded to backtrack 1 or 2 versions. This applies to myself, and all the folks I advise.

  • Keith-g2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 2:09 PM (in response to turingtest2)

    @turingtest2 - what if we're not getting on with the functionality like having 2 playlist windows open?

  • turingtest2 Level 8 Level 8 (43,940 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 4:32 PM (in response to Keith-g2)

    I can't recall ever needing that feature myself, though it did used to bug me when a second window would open when I all wanted to do was select a playlist.


    iTunes is never going to be perfect for everyone, and it can be irritating when a piece of behaviour you used disappears, but there is usually a workaround.


    Enabling the sidebar lets you drag content from one playlist and drag it to another for example. The link I posted also gives roll back instructions if you really want to go back.


    There are things about iTunes I like, and things that I don't. I think the current version is less useful for organizing a disorganized library, and I would like to see both Cover Flow and Album List back, but I can live without them.



  • CharmCityCrab Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 4:49 PM (in response to turingtest2)

    I got a gift card as a present, so I had to reactivate the store for 5 minutes to use it (Many months ago, I disabled, the store, genius, sharing my library with Apple, and basically anything that would cause it to hit Apple's server and start deleting play counts and changing my user data like genres and album names around) and then disabled it again.  In 5 minutes, itunes had deleted at least one old album of mine from it's library file.  Fortunately, from past experience I figured something like that might happened, and backed up my .itl file six ways from Sunday right before activating anything that would connect with Apple's servers again.  Then I restored the old .itl file when I was done and manually added the new albums to the library.


    But it took only that short time talking to servers for Apple to start screwing up my library again.  This is the second wealthiest company in the world or something right now, isn't it?  And they still haven't fixed the database errors (disappearing play counts, music, etc.) that have been plaguing it since November?  Or even acknowledged them and said they're working on a fix?


    They appear just not to care.

    It's not just a question of asthetics like what size the cover art is or how you navigate around the program.  There are actually major database bugs here that are not being addressed, and major issues of Apple taking control away from consumers to organize their own music by genre and set album and track orders and such.  6 months later, they've done nothing about any of that.  One could even categorize it as vandalism of digital property, since people have bought and paid for these songs and albums, though I understand Apple's probably got their legal bases covered. 


    If I were a conspiracy theory kind of guy, I'd say that they are preparing to get rid of itunes as library software and just do music subscriptions from the web for a monthly fee and are downgrading itunes in preparation for that so no one misses it and people are more willing to try their new thing.

  • turingtest2 Level 8 Level 8 (43,940 points)
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    Apr 19, 2013 5:22 PM (in response to CharmCityCrab)

    Yep, I recall writing a script to help you recover your altered data. I generally favour fowl-up over conspiracy (the alliterative term for a male chicken would be blocked), but I agree that iTunes shouldn't change metadata without warning and having seen a run of issues lately that seem to be caused by a conflict with AVG there is scope for making it able to recover gracefully when such things happen. I don't however have any problem editing my tags, getting albums to play in the correct order, applying genres etc. It all seems to work OK for me. It is always possible there have been changes that I haven't had reason to become aware of, but since I'm always tweaking my library and updating my backups I doubt it.



  • jimmy1264 Calculating status...
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    Apr 20, 2013 10:19 PM (in response to hatenewitunes)

    This new version of iTunes is horrible - What were they thinking - Nothing works and it's constantly freezing.  Can't beleive they released such a poor product - See what happens when the the Leader leaves.

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