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Don Hutchinson1 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

Mail on my Powerbook under Snow Leopard is offline

I can receive mail and I can access and browse the internet

The Connection doctor shows OK

The same settings work on my iPad and iPhone

 

When I try to send from my MacPro i see the message "off line".

Suspect that my Mail on PowerBook is corrupted

 

I downloaded Pacifist, but unclear how to actually reinstallthe mail files


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • 1. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Beth Goodnight Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've got just about this same set up. I have my own business email account via MacHighway, Comcast and Gmail. Mail will receive from all accounts, but will only send from Gmail. I've been online and on phone with MacHighway, and can send email through that account via webmail… also via iOS… but not from iMac or MacBook Pro. MacHighway says it's DEFINITELY not them. They've worked on this with me for 2 days now.

     

    The only thing new is that during last week I allowed software update to install whatever it was that it needed to install. I don't know where to access a record of that.

     

    Does anyone know what is going on with Mail under Snow Leopard on these non-iOS machines? Is Mail suddenly corrupt? Can I install a fresh copy from the install disk? Will it retain all my email and email boxes and rules that file stuff?

  • 2. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Lanny Level 5 Level 5 (4,485 points)

    Your symptoms are generally attributed to incorrect SMTP settings. Deleting and re-installing the Mail App is not likely the answer.

     

    Who is your email provider?

     

    Are you using IMAP?

     

    What server settings have you tried, i.e., ports, SSL, etc.

     

    You haven't provided enough details for anyone to help you.

     

    "My car doesn't run, how do I change the tires?

  • 3. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Beth Goodnight Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My service provider is MacHighway. I was just on the phone with them and they had me type in exactly what information and settings they wanted to suit their purposes. I've been trading email for 2 days with my ISP on this issue. They say it's  not them. I've been with them for years now. This problem just started 2 days ago (this past Friday). I had changed nothing to do with the settings of my email app. Also, I have perfect use of my email incoming and outgoing using MacHighway's webmail.

     

    I can also send through all my (3) email accounts from my iPhone just fine… just not from iMac or MacBook Pro. Both computers will only send out through gmail. They will receive from all 3 accounts however.

     

    I'm POP.

     

    My ISP told me to turn off SSL for outgoing and use port 587. That is what I did and it didn't change anything.

     

    I downloaded the Postbox app, and it also will only send from my gmail account as well. Not from goodnightdesign.com, not from comcast.net. And interestingly, their error message says to check to see if my firewall or antivirus app is preventing sending. I am not sure how to disable Norton. I've got my Apple firewall off now. It hasn't helped.

  • 4. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Don Hutchinson1 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    The settings for smtp et al are identical to those on my iPad which works

    And i am using an iPad ro respond

    The problem thus appears to be within the mail software in my

    Power Book

  • 5. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Beth Goodnight Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Don & Lanny,

    I have no problem sending from iOS as well. Only from iMac and PowerBook Pro.

     

    Don, are you using Norton Internet Security?

  • 6. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Lanny Level 5 Level 5 (4,485 points)

    Don,

     

    The problem thus appears to be within the mail software in my

    Power Book

    Not likely.

     

    Try deleting your account and adding it back using the Mail icon in System Preferences:

    (Mail saves all of the previous SMTP server settings even after you delete the original accounts. So, if they were wrong, they may still be used.)

     

     

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    Also make sure all of the old SMTP settings have been deleted beofre you add the account back:

     

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    If you have an IMAP account, you risk nothing, if you have a POP3 account you may lose your emails. Since you have ignored requests for more information about your email configuration, take note.

  • 7. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Beth Goodnight Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I don't have that icon in system preferences. I'm on OS 10.6.8. No iCloud either. But if I delete the account, won't it delete all the email and boxes? I can't do that. I archive client emails and need to retain a record of the interaction. Is there a way to get all of that back after I delete the account? Or… maybe I'm not clear on that issue. Can I somehow save all the email boxes elsewhere, then do the deleting and adding back, then load back the old emails, boxes, organization, etc.?

  • 8. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Lanny Level 5 Level 5 (4,485 points)

    I repeat:

     

     

    If you have an IMAP account, you risk nothing, if you have a POP3 account you may lose your emails. Since you have ignored requests for more information about your email configuration, take note.

     

     

    For the 3rd time: ARE YOU USING IMAP, YES OR NO?

     

    WHO IS YOUR EMAIL PROVIDER?

  • 9. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Don Hutchinson1 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I am using POP3

    It appears ther are two separate conversations here, which may explain the confusion,

    My ISP is Verizon FIOS for the past year,

    I can read and send web mail and macmail from my iPad

    As far as I can tell all the settings in myiPad are exactly the same as for my PB

    Mail on my PB shows that all my smtp connections (in mail preferencesare offline so nothing goes out

    And the mail sits in the out box on the PB

    The connection doctor looks ok all gren lights

    Incoming seems ok

    My PB is old and not upgradable to Lion so running with Snow Leopard

    I downloade Pacifist, used my installation disk but could figure out how to reinstall mail

  • 10. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Beth Goodnight Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Lanny,

     

    I'm using POP as well. Sorry I missed that bit of information.

     

    ISP is MacHighway.com.

     

    Ditto the exact same things as Don Hutchinson1 is saying about connection doctor having all green lights, all smtp connections are shown as offline EXCEPT for gmail. I can send via gmail from the Mail app (but not from comcast or machighway). I downloaded Postbox, and it behaves the same way.

     

    For incoming connections all 3 accounts are set to port 995 with SSL.

    For outgoing comcast and gmail are using default port with SSL checked; but Machighway just yesterday asked me to select custom port and type in 587 and UNCHECK SSL. I did that, but it didn't change things.

     

    I'm on an early 2012 MacBook Pro and a same vintage iMac. Runing Snow Leopard 10.6.8.

     

    But my iPhone 3GS running 4.3.3 because I use Cydia and am jailbroken and told I can't upgrade (but I am NOT having the same email problem there… email is fine with iOS).

     

    Is there other specific information you need? Sorry this is so confusing, yes, there are 2 of us with what sounds to be the same problem.

     

    Thanks for your help and patience!

  • 11. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Lanny Level 5 Level 5 (4,485 points)

    Delete all of the messages in your Outbox, if any.

     

    Open Mail's preferences.

     

    Click on "Accounts." (to the right of, "General")

     

    Click on the dialogue box to the right of, "Outgoing Mair Server (SMTP):"

     

    Click on, "Edit SMTP Server List..."

     

    Highlight the SMTP listings that you're having problems with a click on the minus sign. Delete them.

     

    The click on the plus sign and then using the correct information, sourced from your mail service provider, add them back.

     

    Save the account information.

     

    Quit Mail

     

    Reopen Mail and see if you can send a new email.

     

     

     

    Settings for

     

    Verizon: https://www22.verizon.com/Support/Residential/internet/highspeed/email/setup+and +use/questionsone/86782.htm

     

    MacHighway: https://customers.machighway.com/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=183

  • 12. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Don Hutchinson1 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I thought for one glorious minute, that your solution was grest (and kicked myslef for not tryig thst delete and restore

     

    The server list was replaced. But then Itried to send a test message and it allchangef back to the severs showing off line and the emails just sat iin the out box -did not go out

    I tried deleting s couple of accounts and deleted the messages in the out box but to no avail

     

    Oh I also switched off and reset my modem

    Last night I went through s complete repair permissions wit Disk Utility

    I will try a Tech Tool rebuild later on

     

    I checked and see no sign of Norton

    iPad works, Webmail works

     

    Weird - either a corrupted file on OSX or a an update bug because of the older PB with updates to Snow Leopard

     

    Ready to try Pacificist  if you can explain how I reinstall mail  using thaytprogram

  • 13. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Beth Goodnight Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Don,

    I've tried all that you have said as well, and followed Lanny's suggestions to a tee. I did delete all accounts on the iMac, put back in just one of the accounts that has been forces offline… and it would not send. Put in gmail as well, and it sends just fine.

     

    Could this POSSIBLY be a google thing?

     

    I too have reset the router. I too have run Disk Utility as well as Onyx.

     

    Iphone and webmail works for me as well.

  • 14. Re: How to reinstall mail?
    Don Hutchinson1 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Could this be a problem with Verizon?

     

    I note that Verizon does not like Safari 5.1.9 which we older PBs are stuck with. They "recommend"  Safari 6

    Is it possible that the they don't like Mail 4.6 whichhruns on the PB.  and they do like the version of Mail that runs with IOS (iPad iPhone)  Is it possible that Highway has the same problem

     

    Can Lanny help identify the difference between Mail 4.6 as patrt of OSX 10.6 and Mail in IOS so that we can kick butt with Verizon and Highway. Possibly see if other Apple users with older machines have similar problems.

    May need a core dump.

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