9 Replies Latest reply: May 4, 2013 5:16 AM by Attilas
awebill3 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I recently bought a brand new Macbook Pro 13" w/ retina display mostly for professional reasons but also because my current laptop was aging not so gracefully. I am quite pleased with it for the most part. What I find frustrating is that many things that I could simply Right Click or Shift Click to find or do on my PC laptop I must dig through several menus to find to do on my Apple. I guess I could say it is a bit like being thrown into a left handed world.

 

I know that my Macbook Pro is supposed to be a more user friendly machine but I find myself looking at my old laptop longingly when I become frustrated with this new machine.

 

My PC laptop was a power house in many ways, 4 years ago. Optimised for speed and HD graphics it was a beautiful beast of a machine at 17", Nvidia GTX graphics chipset, weighing in at almost 9lbs and a keyboard with more buttons than a fighter jet. And this machine is sleek, slim, light weight and built like a fine swiss time peice. It's lovely.

 

I know I know, you are saying go back to your mass market, cookie cutter pc and leave ours alone. Or perhaps you are not so cruel and you're saying, take some courses or go to the Genius Bar and have a nice night learning how to caress your new sleek machine. I may do the latter. In fact I may have to no matter what. The book Stranger in a Strang Land comes to mind. I feel a bit lost.

 

I guess my reasoning for posting this is to find fellow former PC owners having the same misgivings and/or troubles. If you are like me please join the discussion. Looking for some fellow travelers in this new territory.


MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.3), Learning to fly all over again
  • 1. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    CMCSK Level 6 Level 6 (10,425 points)

    Mac 101:  Get Started Using A Mac

     

    There is Apple’s own Knowledge Base Articles and The OS Help Menu.

     

    A good read for switchers & novices alike is OS X Mountain Lion: The Missing Manual

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • 2. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    awebill3 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks CMCSK! I will definately look at those. I am having fun learning to use my new Macbook if I didn't mention that above. I like to consider myself a techie. I am usually a first adopter of new tech. I was with the iPod.

     

    I know I'll get it figured out.

  • 3. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    Attilas Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    Hello there. Im a tech guys too, mostly PC. Recently got into Mac world just for fun and because I needed a Laptop.

     

    First got a Macbook Air 13" 5 months ago and jumped on MBPr 15" 4 days ago. I had a learning curve of 2 weeks to get used to it. Now really appreciate OSX. Not perfect, but i don't feel it is a boulder to carry on and I find it have it share of good thing over the PC world.

     

    You question is not absolutly clear to me, but at least you have someone to talk with !

     

    Lets start:

     

    1) Preference -> Trackpad

     

    • Tap to clic ON
    • Two finger clic ON (Here is your right clic for extra options)
    • Three finger Drag ON

     

    2) Mission Control, 4 finger up is my best friend now. Missing it so much on PC now.

     

    3) Learn basic COMMAND shortcut ! Really this make things start to run smooth. I use them constantly.

     

    • Command-W -> Close a window of a program (Safari tab, finder window, etc...)
    • Command-Q -> Close the application and all windows (Completely close safari or any opened programs)
    • Command-M -> Minimise currently selected windows.
    • Command-, -> Option in any program
    • Command-T -> Open new tab in Safari

     

    Once you start to get used to mission control, quick command shortcut and that really nice mouse pad gesture, you will get one step into appreciating this nice operating system.

     

    Did I miss your point ?

  • 4. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    remy17 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    awebill3 wrote:

     

    What I find frustrating is that many things that I could simply Right Click or Shift Click to find or do on my PC laptop I must dig through several menus to find to do on my Apple.

     

    Anything specifically that you can point out to us? Being a PC user turned proficient MAC user, I can appreciate the shock the new OS can create in getting used to it, and finding all the shortcuts/tips and tricks.

     

    If you had a list of specific things that you could simply do on a PC, and what you've now had to do on the MAC to equal it, please reply back and post them. I'd be more than happy to see if I could help address any specific examples of issues you may have.

     

    To be honest, i've even been a "PC Biased Person" -- but seriously have found that in daily use of the MAC -- have become more proficient and productive with in general, less effort to get the same amount of work done/completed! :-)

  • 5. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    awebill3 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks to all of you! You didn't miss the point at all. I see that those tips are quite helpful already. I just hoped to find others like me and those that had been through it and could now lead us lost souls.

     

    I will be using everything that you have suggested and I've booked marked this post to see more helpful tips from you guys.

     

    I don't have anything specific to complain about (I do but it's late and I'm not thinking so clearly) so I will be posting questions in the next day or two. Thanks again.

     

    Oh, I should say that I am a mouse user. So many of my frustration comes from trying to treat the Magic Mouse like my PC track ball mouse. I'm learning.

  • 6. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    remy17 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    No worries, it _IS_ late!

     

    2 articles/links i fully and typically recommend for newer MAC users are the Mac Basics/101 Article, and keyboard shortcuts, both linked below

     

    Mac Basics : 101

     

    OS X Keyboard Shortcuts

  • 7. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    Network 23 Level 6 Level 6 (11,695 points)

    awebill3 wrote:

     

    What I find frustrating is that many things that I could simply Right Click or Shift Click to find or do on my PC laptop I must dig through several menus to find to do on my Apple. I guess I could say it is a bit like being thrown into a left handed world.

    You're already getting some tips for this but I just wanted to emphasize that this is one of the easiest problems to solve in the transition.

     

    Right-click menus are all over OS X apps. They are just as prevalent in Microsoft and Adobe suite applications for the Mac as they are in Windows. RIght-clicking comes in many, many more forms than just right-clicking. Whenever I need a right-click menu here are all the options, and I realize some are redundant with the earlier posts.

     

    • Learn the 3 ways to set your MacBook Pro trackpad to right-click (two-finger click, lower left corner click, lower right corner click)
    • Get a right-click mouse, since nearly any multi-button USB or Bluetooth mouse you can find in any store (PC or Mac) will work with your Mac and with right-click menus, and this has been true for almost 15 years. (Although you might have to enable the mouse's right button in OS X System Preferences.)
    • Press the Control key and click. Ctrl-clicking is how a lot of Mac users learned to bring up those menus back when they were stuck with a one-button Apple mouse and no right-clickable trackpad.
    • Use any input device with multiple buttons. I work a lot with digital photos using a Wacom input tablet with pressure-sensitive stylus, and it has a configuable two-way rocker buttton on the stylus; either end can be set to right-click. Same with trackball buttons.

     

    I freely switch between these methods depending on which Mac I'm on and whether I'm using a mouse, trackpad, stylus, etc. Because there are so many ways to get your right-click menus.

  • 8. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    awebill3 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have to say that everyone that has responded to me about my switch from windows based PC's to Apple has been great. I have learned a lot in the last few days trying out all of your suggestions. Thank you. The Apple community is very proffesional and helpful and I really appreciate that.

     

    There are still a few things that I need to learn and I will eventually and there are some things that I wish OS X did that was similar to  Windows latest but they are minor things. Apple does a great many things right and I am delighted with my decision to switch. I am sure as computers and operating systems evolve they will begin to do many things very much alike.

     

    I hope that those that come to this discussion still will ad things to it and I do hope that new folks will use it as a begining point like I attended it to be.

     

    One thing I would suggest, if any Apple engineers are reading this, is that you do the snap feature for your windows like Microsoft does. There is an app for that (as there is for most everything now) but I'd rather see it as a standard feature and not a paid app. It works very well for doing multi tasking. It is the one feature I truely miss the most on my PC. Other than that, everthing thing else is simply me learning to use my new machine better.

     

    Bill.

  • 9. Re: Former Windows PC Owners
    Attilas Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    You are right this feature is missing in OSX.

     

    I personaly have a below average short term memory and I usualy snap one application on left and other one on right If i need to copy stuff quickly.

     

    I use http://www.bettertouchtool.net to add some nice feature to OSX. This software can add a lot of gesture to the trackpad and also can add Window snapping features.