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  • 60. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,445 points)

    Falcon27453 wrote:

     

    I had hoped that Mountain Lion would enhance the Reminders / iCal relationship

    iCal doesn't come with Mountain Lion.

     

    Although the prior merger of the Reminders and iCal was a wee bit stilted, I now have to "juggle" two apps to find out what's immediately due, what's important and what's coming up.  And as with any attempt at juggling... things get dropped.

    No problem here, if this is difficult for you I suggest BusyCal instead of Calendar

     

    In almost every other aspect of my experience with Apple products, "It All Just Worked."  Unfortunately, in this instance, this separation "Just Doesn't Work."

    Unfortunately it also depends on the user, BusyCal is simpler and displays reminders on the calendar, if that is what you need, use it.

  • 61. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Tom in London Level 4 Level 4 (1,585 points)

    How dare you question the wisdom of Apple? There is a higher intelligence at work here. If you don't understand its mysterious ways, perhaps you're not good enough for the Mac OS.

     

     

     

  • 62. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,445 points)

    I am the higher intelligence (not so sure about the 'at work' bit)

  • 63. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    DwightCass Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    BusyCal is unable to handle exchange accounts so it's not useful for work situations where you need to receive, reply to and send exchange calendar invitations. Too bad; otherwise it's a good program.

  • 64. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,445 points)

    Yup, that's the major limitation, but many posters here are not using Exchange accounts so BusyCal remains a good option. For Exchange use Outlook.

  • 65. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Falcon27453 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You're right Csound1, or should I say, "Your Worship"... I misspoke.  I meant to say "Reminders / Calendar" not iCal.  Sorry for the confusion. Even so, it shouldn't be necessary to secure additional software to fix a problem that "...wasn't broke, to begin with," if the combination of Apple's Reminders and Calendar were sufficient for the user... with a wee bit of tweeking, that I suggested.

     

    That being said, I just downloaded a Trial copy of BusyCal 2.  A little pricey... but... Amazing!!!  At first blush, every bell and whistle that one could imagine, if Reminders and Calendar actuall "grew up."  And after almost 24 years with the government as a SSA, I don't miss Exchange.  Thanks for the suggestion.

     

    Tom... my first Apple computer was a "IIe Pro" and my first Mac was a "Macintosh Plus," add to that, I spent a little more than 20 years fighting in the DOS and Windows trenches... I think I've "paid my dues."  But thanks for the kind words.

  • 66. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,445 points)

    Falcon27453 wrote:

     

    You're right Csound1, or should I say, "Your Worship"... I misspoke.  I meant to say "Reminders / Calendar" not iCal.  Sorry for the confusion. Even so, it shouldn't be necessary to secure additional software to fix a problem that "...wasn't broke, to begin with," if the combination of Apple's Reminders and Calendar were sufficient for the user... with a wee bit of tweeking, that I suggested.

     

    That being said, I just downloaded a Trial copy of BusyCal 2.  A little pricey... but... Amazing!!!  At first blush, every bell and whistle that one could imagine, if Reminders and Calendar actuall "grew up."  And after almost 24 years with the government as a SSA, I don't miss Exchange.  Thanks for the suggestion.

     

    Tom... my first Apple computer was a "IIe Pro" and my first Mac was a "Macintosh Plus," add to that, I spent a little more than 20 years fighting in the DOS and Windows trenches... I think I've "paid my dues."  But thanks for the kind words.

    I have used Busycal for many years now, it is excellent, it also suits my useage patterns (Exchange for Business, iCloud for the rest) so I also use Calendar (for Exchange) this helps me to keep things apart

  • 67. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Dried Apple Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I am disappointed to find that Calendar and Reminders are two separate apps in Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8.3). But I am more disappointed that I didn't think to check for discussions about this issue before upgrading. I didn't think to check on iCal in Mountain Lion because iCal was working so well. If it ain't broke why change it?

     

    I have a little network of three 2011 model iMacs that had been running Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6.8) with Snow Leopard Server on a Mac mini. We don't share files as much as diary entries and our to-do lists. We are very happy with how OS X 10.6 handles this.

     

    There are a couple of pieces of software that I would like to use that only run on Lion or Mountain Lion so I thought I'd upgrade one of the iMacs to Mountain Lion. After the upgrade Calendar appears to have picked up the iCal data on the iMac and our shared iCal data on the server but not the to-do list items. It appears from the discussions that no provision has been made to import the data into Reminders.

     

    After my first shutdown and next startup of the iMac I also encountered the frozen dialogue box "Upgrading calendars …" which some of the discussions mentioned. Calendar quit OK and I re-opened it without the dialogue box appearing again. Calendar is a big window too that doesn't seem to be able to be reduced down much.

     

    Some years ago I used an application called Now Up-to-Date on various Macs running OS 8. It combined a calendar and to-do list that could be shared on a network but the network features didn't work with OS X in Classic mode. It wasn't until later versions of OS X that iCal incorporated the combined features.

     

    This is a bit of a long story but for the first time using Macs I think I will uninstall an upgrade. My little network was working fine. I'm also not keen to upgrade the server to Mountain Lion and risk messing up features that have been working well.

  • 68. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Bored Robot Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yup, another unhappy user. Had no idea Apple would remove such a useful function from iCal. <sigh> This is crap and makes things more complicated having to use two different programs. Another item in the dock. I'm seriously thinking this will be the last round of computers from Apple. For better or worse everything I do prefessionaly is with Adobe software--Final Cut and Aperture no longer matter to me. Feedback on it's away....again.

  • 69. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,445 points)

    Use BusyCal instead of Calendar (you don't have iCal)

  • 70. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    briwahley Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I went with BusyCal out of necessity and I actually like it, however to me that's not the point. 

     

    I shouldn't have to go to a third party program, spend more money on it, and spend days getting all the settings just right to be able to share it with Google calendar so the rest of my team can see my calandar.  The functionality should be there with the Calendar program in Mountain Lion. 

     

    I came back to Mac a little over a year ago after spending 15+ years in PC land.  If this is an indication of the direction for Mac software...I hope I'm not going to regret the move back. 

  • 72. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,445 points)

    briwahley wrote:

     

    I went with BusyCal out of necessity and I actually like it, however to me that's not the point. 

     

    I shouldn't have to go to a third party program, spend more money on it, and spend days getting all the settings just right to be able to share it with Google calendar so the rest of my team can see my calandar.  The functionality should be there with the Calendar program in Mountain Lion. 

     

    I came back to Mac a little over a year ago after spending 15+ years in PC land.  If this is an indication of the direction for Mac software...I hope I'm not going to regret the move back. 

     

    Before you came back I will guess that you used Outlook instead of the Windows Live Calendar.

     

    How much was that?

  • 73. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    briwahley Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It was part of the Office bundle, so I don't know how much it might have been individually.  If you're suggesting that paying for that is the same as paying extra for a third party calendar I can sort of see that.  But if we're going to start comparing dollar for dollar let's start with the difference in hardware prices.  I paid close to three times for my Mac and it's bundled software as I would have for a PC with it's "freebies". 

     

    I realize I made the choice to go with a Mac and I realize that Apple doesn't "owe" me anything.  I'm just trying to figure out why they would have disconnected these two apps/programs when most everything else out there is integrated.  What was the logic behind that?  And apparently I'm not the only one wondering this.

  • 74. Re: Has Mountain Lion ruined ical/reminders integration? I can't figure it out
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,445 points)

    briwahley wrote:

     

    It was part of the Office bundle, so I don't know how much it might have been individually.  If you're suggesting that paying for that is the same as paying extra for a third party calendar I can sort of see that.  But if we're going to start comparing dollar for dollar let's start with the difference in hardware prices.  I paid close to three times for my Mac and it's bundled software as I would have for a PC with it's "freebies". 

    BusyCal $40

    Outlook $189 or Office $299.

     

    As for the hardware, you paid extra for a Mac because you wanted one.

     

    I have used BusyCal for several years, not because of any recent changes, it has always been superior to iCal/Calendar, so for me it is worth the extra money.

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