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HT5467 Updating WiFi router location in Apple's database?

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  • chcn Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    Actually, even the latest version of the Maps app (I'm using iOS 6.1.3 on an iPhone 5) does have this option. Here are the steps:

     

    1. Tap on the blue dot. A black boxed entitled "Current Location" pops up.
    2. Tap on the blue arrow in the black box.
    3. Tap on the button called Report of Problem (now in the lower right of the screen)
    4. Tap on Pin is at incorrect location
    5. Tap on Next
    6. Drag the purple pin which appears to the correct location
    7. Tap Send

     

    I've just tried this for the first time right now, so I don't know what effect it will have, but it's interesting to see it's possible.

     

    I've long been wishing for a web form where I could submit the MAC address of my router, kind of like Skyhook used to allow (still does, here, it's just that Apple stopped using their data ages ago). But perhaps this procedure of reporting that the blue dot is in the wrong place does roughly the same thing? If so, it's probably even better, because it will give information about several routers at once.

  • Paul_31 Level 6 Level 6 (12,190 points)

    Hi chcn

     

    Just wondering if this ever worked for you. Did your location get updated/activated?

     

    I've gone through the steps you describe - thanks, but only 24 hours ago. Be interesting to know of the likely outcome.

     

    Paul

  • chcn Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    I'm not sure if it worked. I'm going to say no, based on the fact that I'm sitting in my den not three feet from my wireless router, and my iPhone is showing me about a block away, with the circle of uncertainty more than a city block in diameter. True, it's not got me in the wrong city or state, but I don't think the procedure above made it any more accurate than it was before. If I had to guess, I'd say it's estimating location based on the 8 or so WiFi routers it sees (probably none of which are located correctly in the database), and/or cell towers, and/or what little scattered GPS signals it can see out my window in this urban canyon. (Probably not much of the later, hence the large circle of uncertainty.) Sadly, it doesn't appear to be giving much weigh to the very strong router signal it's actually connected to.

  • Paul_31 Level 6 Level 6 (12,190 points)

    Thanks for coming back with that information. From a couple of other threads I read it seems like it can be a long wait, if it happens at all.

    I've got a WiFi/3g iPad that finds my home location, via wifi, so keep hoping that my location (rural France) will make it to the database. Neither of my Macs, nor the iPad touch know where they are!

    If anything ever changes I'll post back noting how look it took for it to happen.

  • chcn Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    I'm curious how you know that your WiFi/3g iPad is finding your home location <i>via WiFi</>. The 3G iPads have built-in GPS receivers, and as far as I know, if Location Services is turned on, so is the GPS, so it's impossible to know if it's determining your location using WiFi, cell towers, GPS, or a combination of all three. Am I wrong?

  • Paul_31 Level 6 Level 6 (12,190 points)

    No, I think you're right and my description is wrong. What I meant (not what I said ) is that my iPad is only connected to the internet via wifi when I'm at home - 3g is never turned on, but it finds my location, presumably using the built-in GPS.

    The Macs and iPod touch obviously have no GPS, but used to happily find my home location via wifi with my old router.

  • chcn Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    Ah, yes. I should have deduced that's what you meant from the other information you provided.

     

    Anyway, I rather liked the idea that this might be a way to update the WiFi database, but I'm now thinking it probably doesn't do that, at least not directly. It might actually go into a queue for manual processing like other map error reports, in which case, good luck ever getting it fixed.

  • Paul_31 Level 6 Level 6 (12,190 points)

    It's started working!!

     

    Well, that's a pleasant surprise, woke up this morning and Location Services is now working on all the devices at home. It's 10 days since I got my new router so I don't think I can complain.

    When I got the router and found this thread I went through the steps you described above and I reckon they've worked in my case. Thank you very much.

  • chcn Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    Or it's a coincidence and it started working because your GPS-enabled iPad (and/or someone else's iPhone) saw your router and automatically submitted its GPS location.

  • Paul_31 Level 6 Level 6 (12,190 points)

    Could be - either way, I'm a happy chappy .

  • João Nunes Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just tried your steps of reporting in my router (i have actually 2 routers here) I will report back it it worked!

  • jrnda Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just moved my old router from my house to parents' house about 2 hours flight away, and it still shows the location as my house, I only have WiFi devices (MBP, iPad WiFi and iPod touch), but I'll try updating using the same method above anyway.

     

    I'll post here if there's any changes within the two weeks I'm staying here.

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