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MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

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  • ikomu Calculating status...
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    May 2, 2013 3:33 AM (in response to mittense)

    I've done the advanced Calibration by eye I dont have any tool for that and sadly they are not very affordable...

    I guess There are very limited perfect Samsung Panels on the market and the one I've got is not one of them , here is my .icc file;

    http://www.4shared.com/file/g5LQo8to/iko9.html

    its not that bad now but on stock profile white=yellow

  • Rushen55 Calculating status...
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    May 3, 2013 1:02 PM (in response to mittense)

    Hey guys I have had my Macbook pro 15" for about 11 months now and even though if I sometimes see ghosting on my screen it always vanishes within about  5 minutes and has never bothered me. But what does bother me, is even that I leave my mac on 0 brightness while i go away for say 10minutes, when i come bakc there is faint ghosting despite the fact that i left it on 0 brightness. Does anyone else have this problem?

     

    My second question is that can u swap just screens or do you have to swap the whole laptop, and secondly is it worth swapping screens to Samsung?

     

    This is my current screen details if for some reason it helps:

    Color LCD

    LP154WT1-SJA1

    DCN228315W5DMJ0AM

  • ikomu Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    May 3, 2013 1:14 PM (in response to Rushen55)

    they swap display with samsung if you are lucky but overall LG is better choice despite the IR problem ...

    has better colors,contrast etc...

  • kashman69 Calculating status...
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    May 3, 2013 1:48 PM (in response to ikomu)

    Hey ikomu,

     

    i've been using the new samsung display i recieved yesterday from apple for a day now and i completely do understand what you were saying about LG colors vs Samsung Colors. I must be one of the luckiest ones, cause i don't see any yellowing of the screen, no light bleeding and colors appear uniform throughout the screen with a few basic tests, no dead pixels either.

     

    I wouldn't say the colors are washed out on the Samsung, but the vibrancy of colors on the LG was definitly better then that of the Samsung. Unfortunatly for the little part of actual "work" i do on mine its always in shades of grey (MRI/CT/X-rays) so the IR was much more an issue for me in that and now works amazing. But maybe some day if i can get my hands on a LCD calibration device i can get my monotor more than just visually callibrated and get some of that color 'umph' back if at all possible.

     

    Thanks for all the help though!

  • Vespa Mod Calculating status...
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    May 5, 2013 7:23 PM (in response to mittense)

    I just thought i'd chime in to update everyone.  My BTO rMBP purchased in August 2012 initially showed no signs of IR, even after multiple checkerboard tests in the first month. 

     

    However, lately I have noticed IR, faint but it is there.  I first noticed it when I was watching a movie having surfed the web.  I could clearly see the outline of the address bar during the movie.  It did fade eventually but annoying none the less.

     

    Last night I decided to change to a grey background to see the extent of IR, i opened a Finder window and left it there for a minute or two.  After closing the window, i could see the outline.  Again it did fade away but it was worrying to know IR develops so quickly now.

     

    I will eventually take the laptop to an Apple store to get it fixed and will probably be taking out Apple Care on this one!

     

    Shame really as I want to buy a 13" rMBP for the wife but not until these issues are resolved.

  • kevwkev Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 9, 2013 6:38 AM (in response to mittense)

    Here we go. IR appears on new revision LG panel

    LP154WT1-SJA2

    http://bbs.weiphone.com/read-htm-tid-6433991.html

  • Jajaba Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 9, 2013 10:16 AM (in response to kevwkev)

    never mind

  • kevwkev Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 9, 2013 11:07 AM (in response to Jajaba)

    I see IR on first and second images.

  • lel62 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 10, 2013 12:10 AM (in response to Jajaba)

    Jajaba, you seem to be one of the more educated people throughout this thread. What is your take on this SJA2 IR from kevwkev? I just returned a 15 rMBP with a pretty decent Sammy Panel with the hopes of getting the LG SJA2 as I like the colors and contrast better on the LG. I did in fact get a SJA2 but am now a bit concerned from this recent finding. I'm also noticing much less activity on this thread lately which seems strange. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks in advance.

  • Jajaba Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 10, 2013 3:17 PM (in response to lel62)

    No Idea if the images showm in kevwkev's link are valid, I can't read Japanese, lol.  If they are real that is the first case of IR I have heard of on an SJA2.  We have 4 LG SJA1's with no sign of IR on any of them.  As for the lack of activity here I would assume that there has been fewer new deliveries of LG's showing up with IR.   

  • asiafish Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 10, 2013 3:27 PM (in response to mittense)

    Just brought my MBP to the Apple Store in Bakersfield, CA for IR on the LG display.  They replaced the display with a Samsung and so far no IR issues whatsoever.  Better image quality as well.

     

    VERY pleased.

  • lel62 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 10, 2013 3:36 PM (in response to Jajaba)

    Thanks for the reply. I would like to think that I made the right decision. I was wondering if Apple is not letting certain things through with that being the reason for much less traffic on the forum. Any way to figure out if the link on that Japanese site is real or what it says. I'd like to know how kevwkev found it??? Thanks again.

  • FatMac\>MacPro Level 4 Level 4 (2,065 points)
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    May 10, 2013 7:58 PM (in response to Jajaba)

    Jajaba wrote:

     

    No Idea if the images showm in kevwkev's link are valid, I can't read Japanese, lol.  If they are real that is the first case of IR I have heard of on an SJA2.  We have 4 LG SJA1's with no sign of IR on any of them.  As for the lack of activity here I would assume that there has been fewer new deliveries of LG's showing up with IR.   

    I can't read Japanese either but Google Translate comes up roughly with:

     

    Original post:

     

    "Hong Kong Bank the rMBP I start on March 30 with 15-inch high-me665 screen lg, there is now a blur, open the browser, like the QQ chat window for a while, switch to the dark background ps CS6 software interface see the blur, a long time to disappear, I also can switch or change the screen apple store in Shanghai? Help experienced fy

     

    Figure we may think that I is a result of black, on the map, the desktop is dark gray solid color background, open the apple pipe network was allowed to stand for a few minutes there will be a blur to the desktop, more vegetables, I photographed his photo it is not obvious, afraid of getting worse."

     

    A reply:

     

    "Replacement enough to choke has been seven days, you can change the screen. Most of the warranty period, LG screen caught, Samsung screen very little image retention. Nothing! You go to the store to be able to solve. My friends are lg go to Shanghai store and then make you wait for the screen."

     

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    The images shown do look like IR. But again, since not everyone was experiencing IR even with the LG SJA1's, I'll again raise the question of how the display is used. There's been some mention by posters who experienced IR that the monitors were tested and run at full brightness. While the IR shouldn't happen under any conditions, I wonder if the burn in can be associated with how brightly what's on the screen is displayed. I keep my display just bright enough for whites to look white, which is pretty low, and haven't seen any IR yet, despite repeated use of the Mitch Malone's test.

  • lel62 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 10, 2013 11:31 PM (in response to FatMac\>MacPro)

    Given the circumstances would you take the chance and keep the SJA2 or would you return it and try for a Samsung? The SJA2 just looks so much better but I do not want the retention headache. I have only a week left on my 14 days.

  • FatMac\>MacPro Level 4 Level 4 (2,065 points)
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    May 11, 2013 7:12 AM (in response to lel62)

    lel62 wrote:

     

    Given the circumstances would you take the chance and keep the SJA2 or would you return it and try for a Samsung? The SJA2 just looks so much better but I do not want the retention headache. I have only a week left on my 14 days.

    A few things to consider. First, I don't think it says on the box whether the display is Samsung or LG so you'd just have to keeping taking them home and using the Terminal command to check and returning it if it's still LG. Apple might eventually get pretty tired of that. Second, while this endless thread is about IR, there are other things that can go wrong with a computer and you could be swapping one set of problems for another. Third, these days it's SSD rather than HD, and SSD's are virtually impossible to erase securely. So unless you can work out a way to test each rMBP without personalizing it, you're turning them back in with potentially recoverable private stuff on them.

     

    If it was me (actually it was me a couple of months ago), I'd run Mitch Malone's test in all its combinations a number of times in the 14 day period and take screen shots of the results, keep the display brightness at the minimum usable level (and wait for comments on my brightness question), and if it doesn't otherwise break, I'd keep it. I'd also get AppleCare so the problem can be dealt with down the road if it crops up.

     

    As an aside, i just recently replaced a Samsung LCD/fluorescent TV with a Samsung LCD/LED TV. In the User Manual for the LED TV (but not the fluorescent TV) there are multiple warnings about susceptibility to IR and the various steps needed to avoid it. The Retina technology is no doubt different from your garden variety LED TV technology but it would seem Samsung hasn't found the Holy Grail either.

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