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  • 15. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    Chuck Pebble Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey, I've had this issue too.

    The thing I'm used to is the login keychain being unlocked from logging in. At first I thought this was not the case anymore, but when I was playing around with Keychain Access I found a neat little 'hidden' option pane. Richt click on the login keychain and one of the options in the pop up will be:

     

    Change Settings for Keychain "login"...

     

    I did that and found two check boxes that may have been giving you and me both fits:

     

    [] Lock after [5] minutes of inactivity.

    [] Lock after sleeping.

     

    Hope this solves our issue.

  • 16. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    niteowl Level 2 Level 2 (385 points)

    Accually it's not a hidden feature, you can access it via the Edit pull down menu.

     

    I've now unchecked both options.... now it's wait and see time...

  • 17. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    macerdoodle Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just verified the source of this on my computer.  It's iCloud that needs the keychain password.  Since my login keychain is not tied to sytem keychain, then I get a second request for my keychain password upon waking from sleep.  Unfortuantely, Apple does not specify what app is asking for this, but it is in fact iCloud.

     

    You have two choices.  You can shut iCloud off as I did to make it go away, or have login keychain unlock system keychain.  I believe the second option was already discussed in this thread.  You won't have to redo all of your passwords, but it is less secure since your passwords will be unlocked  everytime, when you log on.  You should be able to lock your keychain after iCloud has gained access, but I have not tested this since I shut it off.

  • 18. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    macerdoodle Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    As an update to my last post.  I now have a solution to the problem.

     

    You can keep iCloud on and make the pop up question go away.

     

    Open Keychain

     

    Search for iCloud

     

    Open the item for the iCloud password and choose the right tab for access control

     

    Choose "allow all applications to acces this item" (Acces to this item is not restricted)

     

    This should now give the password without asking for permission every time you wake from sleep.

  • 19. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    Dogruff Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    All very interesting guys but I have this same problem and I thought that unchecking the boxes in the keychain settings might be the solution. Unfortunately, when I looked, the boxes were already unchecked! Where to now??

    On top of this I am sure that my imac runs slower on Mountain Lion than it did on Snow Leopard.

    It has 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 2GB 800MHz DDR2 SDRAM and I was told that it would be ok to use Mountain Lion.  Anyone out there with an opinion on this?

  • 20. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    macerdoodle Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sorry Dogruff.  I thought I had it solved.  When I first did this the pop ups stopped after several tests from waking from sleep - but now they are coming back, but not as often.  I am still convinced that this is iCloud so I will try to figure out why allowing access to the keychain password did not completely solve the problem.

     

    In any event, for what it's worth, you only have 2 gigs of memory which is not a lot.  Mountain Lion should run but you will have a nice system with a memory upgrade.  I upgraded mine to 8 gigs and the difference was dramatic.

  • 21. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    niteowl Level 2 Level 2 (385 points)

    An Apple Care Senior Advisor I spoke to on the phone on a different matter says, "If your "login" Keychain password is different from your computer Startup password (which uses the "system" Keychain") then you WILL be asked to enter your "login" Keychain password at least once each time you Start or Restart your computer. This is how it should be if your "login" Keychain password is different from your computer Startup password and you can't stop it from happening if your "login" Keychain password is different from your computer Startup password."

     

    This all makes sense to me as it used to commonly happen it the early days of OS X as far back as 10.0 and is now back. This is the "login: Keychain and the "system" Keychain holding hands. This is a good (Apple security) thing.

     

    If it happens more often it is probably some setting WE have control over, like the settings in Keychain that have to do with "Inactivity" and " Sleep", or some other setting WE have set. Mail can also ask for the "login" Password.

     

    [] Lock after [5] minutes of inactivity.

    [] Lock after sleeping.

     

    I now only get one initial request at Startup after unchecking the above boxes in Keychain Access.

     

    I hope this helps you all.

  • 22. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    mv1128 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    in upper right hand corner click on the magnifing glass to search....just type keychain access and it will appear

  • 23. Re: Why does Mac OS X want to use the "login" keychain?
    Sometimes_Macs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Niteowl's response seems to be the answer (at least for my system). I just changed my "login keychain password" to the same thing as my system login password using this Mac help topic.

     

    I hope this helps someone else!

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