Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 11:14 AM (in response to ClayStudio)
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Currently Being ModeratedJan 22, 2013 5:52 AM (in response to ClayStudio)
For some reason the standby/standbydelay doesn't seem to work anymore. To do what you are talking about I think you need to change autopoweroffdelay. You would adjust it like standbydelay. It seems to be a bug that is causing issues for people who don't want there macbook to hibernate unless the battery drains.
If you want it to hibernate after one minute you'd type
sudo pmset autopoweroffdelay 60
This may need to be altered if they fix the standbydelay/autopoweroffdelay confusion, which I personally think is a bug.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 22, 2013 6:50 AM (in response to Michael Thorn)
Upon further reflextion, perhaps this isn't a bug, but a more verbose naming schema? The bug is that autopoweroff is set to '1' (on) for both battery and charger states. I think a more appropriate state, and one that I believe it used to be would be for you to set it like the following.
sudo pmset -c autopoweroff 0
sudo pmset -b autopoweroff 1
With the autopoweroffdelay set to whatever you like. Default is 4 hours, or 14400 seconds.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 22, 2013 10:46 AM (in response to ClayStudio)
Thanks for the input Michael.
The thing that started this, is the new Late 2012 MacBook Pro simply uses much more power in "sleep" mode than what I experienced on my old Late 2007 White MacBook. Every night, the "sleep" mode would result in almost a drain of the battery and the result is that I was unneccessary cycling the battery. With no OS revisions to address this, I have changed the defaults to enable hibernate for both the charging and battery mode.
The strange thing about this is that even to get a true hibernation in battery mode I have to unplug all USB devices or the device will not hybernate. Again, never had to do this on the old White MacBook and the power usage at night was very small.
This works for now, but I think a device should sleep with very little (less than 4%) power loss when power is disabled.
Thanks again for the input. Here are the current settings.
disksleep 5MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
Currently Being ModeratedJan 22, 2013 2:35 PM (in response to ClayStudio)
I agree it should use very little power in sleep mode. Hopefully they figure out what the problems are soon.
Looking at your settings the only thing I'd note is you may want to change autopoweroffdelay to 1800 for all:
sudo pmset autopoweroffdelay 1800
I have a late 2012 MBP and mine completely ignores the standbydelay and standby settings. I can make them whatever I like and nothing seems to change. Though, if I assume that the man page for standby is equivalent to autopoweroff, and standbydelay is equivalent to autopoweroffdelay, the computer acts as I'd expect when I adjust these settings.
My guess is your computer is still only making it to hibernate mode after 4 hours. You can check this by reading the log with pmset -g log
Find a place where you put the computer to sleep, and then it woke up exactly 30 minutes or 4 hours later followed by sleep again. If it only occurs at 4 hours then your computer is acting like mine and ignoring your standbydelay setting. If it happens at 30 minutes your all good.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 22, 2013 6:22 PM (in response to Michael Thorn)
I checked the log files and it appears that the sleep and displaysleep and the standbydelay are working as intended with the 30 minute delay... but only if all USB devices are unplugged.
The frustration with having to remove all USB devices remains, but this appears to be only a limitation of how the hibernation mode 3 works... if I enable hibernation mode 25 then the system will do so even if the USB devices are plugged in. I hope that Apple fixes this odd behaviour.
I saw a comment in another thread that the autopoweroff and autopoweroffdelay only work when the unit is on AC (not sure why they show when displaying the pmset -b options). As most of my concerns were to keep the battery from draining during sleep, I did most of my tweaking with the pmset -b options. I have left my computer on AC many times during the day for hours and hours (with USB devices plugged in) and my computer has never gone into hibernation after 4 hours. I will purge the log and make another test tomorrow and see if I can get the autopoweroff to function at 4 hours.MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
Currently Being ModeratedJan 22, 2013 9:45 PM (in response to ClayStudio)
There is a bug in OSX after patch DL1609 (which introduced the new autopoweroffdelay) because the system won't hibernate when on battery power. It only does it after the default 4 hours when it's plugged into the charger. I've been fighting with Apple Support for over 2 months about this issue and the fact that now after said patch the system also wakes up out of sleep for 15-30 seconds when you plug and unplug it from power for no good reason whatsoever. It also waks up like this out of hibernate when you unplug it. It's really annoying and IT'S WRONG! The behavior is not correct but they're too stupid to realize it.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 24, 2013 5:32 AM (in response to SwankPeRFection)
I started having problems in November - my MacBook waking briefly after 4 hours of sleep and going into deep sleep / hibernation, then taking ages to wake up when I would later open the lid (like almost a minute). This thread provided the explanation and solution:
Running this command in Terminal resolved the problem for me, basically stopping the MacBook from going into deep sleep / hibernation after 4 hours of normal sleep:
sudo pmset -a autopoweroff 0
I too spent hours with Apple support over a number of weeks, but they claimed the behavior was normal. How could it possibly be normal to take almost a minute to wake up? Obviously there was some kind of problem with the update they did that introduced autopoweroff.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 24, 2013 8:51 PM (in response to marchibald)
That's no good. It's not a solution, it's a bandaid. Personally, I don't mind the added hibernation feature. It's actually nice because once it enters it, the memory isn't powered anymore and the battery life is greatly extended. The problem I have is that despite the settings, it only works when the power cable is attached and the secondary issue is that when the charger is attached/detached, the system wakes up. The problem started in November because that's when the patch was released. DL1609 was released at the end of November, pulled and rereleased again a couple of weeks later after they fixed the keychain issues within it. Unfortunately, in standard Apple fasion, they didn't change the date on the release stamp in order to cover up their keychain fugups the first time around with this patch. Now Apple is trying to say there's no power management issues with this patch, but their own forums here are riddled with posts to the contrary. I bet a class action would for this would wake them up quick (pun intended).
Currently Being ModeratedMay 18, 2013 11:20 PM (in response to SwankPeRFection)
I see this, too. My MacBook Pro also hibernates after the "autopoweroffdelay" when the charger is plugged in. However, it does not when on battery. That just does not make sense. To extend battery live, it should be the other way round. I am not happy.
"pmset -g" shows in the relevant parameters:
autopoweroffdelay 14400 hibernatemode 3 autopoweroff 1 ttyskeepawake 1 acwake 0 lidwake 1
for both the battery and the AC power profile.MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.3)
Currently Being ModeratedMar 10, 2014 8:10 AM (in response to DanTheMan000)
I am checking sleep problems of my Macbook Pro 13" non retina late 2012.
I am quite sure problems arised with the Mavericks update, no issues with ML.
I use to close lid to put the Mac in sleep, and I noticed that the Sleep indicator stays on for about one minute, then it starts blinking: looking at console it seems it hibernates just after I close the lid, and not after the "autopoweroffdelay". My battery drains about 6/7% in one night, and it was only 1/2% before the update. Is 6/7% too high?
I would like to put the Mac on sleep, and quickly in the bag not while the disk is writing, and to have it hibernating after hours, not immediately.
These are my pmset settings:
Battery Power -1
AC Power -1*
Currently in use:
Many thanks in advance