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Q: Dual monitors and fullscreen fiasco, is there a work around?

If you have a dual monitor set-up and Lion and you have tried the fullscreen setting, then you know what is wrong.

 

Might as well not even have the second monitor...Lion completely takes over both monitors and only allows you to have one app up. Pointless, and no way to stop it. (A preference setting in System Preferences under Displays would have been the right thing to do).

 

I know I don't have to use fullscreen, but it was nice to be able to view a Quicktime movie fullscreen on one monitor while continuing to work on the other. Lion makes that impossible.

 

Anyone know of a work-around or fix for the fullscreen/dual monitor fiasco?

 

Thanks for all help.

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 2:07 PM

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  • by tangocharlie99,

    tangocharlie99 tangocharlie99 Apr 25, 2013 7:30 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 25, 2013 7:30 PM in response to Csound1

    Absolutely. Apple definitely doesn't consider it broken for sure.

     

    And its not counter intutive you see, My eclipse on my third monitor, and having to move two screens to get to options for the eclipse is so natural!

  • by Jason Gallagher3,

    Jason Gallagher3 Jason Gallagher3 Apr 25, 2013 8:11 PM in response to tangocharlie99
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    Apr 25, 2013 8:11 PM in response to tangocharlie99

    "Absolutely. Apple definitely doesn't consider it broken for sure"

     

    You mean like this?

     

    http://www.cultofmac.com/196267/apple-is-absolutely-aware-fullscreen-mac-apps-on -multiple-monitors-leaves-much-to-be-desired/

  • by Trane Francks,

    Trane Francks Trane Francks Apr 25, 2013 9:12 PM in response to Jason Gallagher3
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    Apr 25, 2013 9:12 PM in response to Jason Gallagher3

    Jason Gallagher3 wrote:

     

    "Absolutely. Apple definitely doesn't consider it broken for sure"

     

    You mean like this?

     

    http://www.cultofmac.com/196267/apple-is-absolutely-aware-fullscreen-mac-apps-on -multiple-monitors-leaves-much-to-be-desired/

     

    Yeah, exactly like that. Twenty months later, the problem remains. They'll acknowledge that folks are passionate about the problem, but won't actually resolve it. After all, in an Apple world, everybody uses a single display and absolutely wants OS X to look and feel just like iOS.

     

    'Scuse me while I go brush my teeth to get rid of the bile that just arose.

  • by Joe Kinlaw,

    Joe Kinlaw Joe Kinlaw Apr 29, 2013 7:48 AM in response to Trane Francks
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    Apr 29, 2013 7:48 AM in response to Trane Francks

    Relief in the pipeline?

     

    From http://9to5mac.com/2013/04/29/apple-to-update-os-x-with-new-power-user-features- more-from-ios-later-this-year/

     

    "The ability to keep a different “Space” or full-screen app open on a different monitor (in multiple monitor setups) is another important power-user feature coming in 10.9."

  • by Joseph Casey,

    Joseph Casey Joseph Casey Apr 29, 2013 11:24 AM in response to donebylee
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    Apr 29, 2013 11:24 AM in response to donebylee

    At least it looks like it might get fixed at some point in the future, but every time an apple update comes out i worry what'll be casually boken next!!

     

    shame on apple for making it impossible to efficiently use screen real estate (as we were able to do in Snow Leopard) in a product they sold me that marketed itself as increasing my screen real estate. double plus shame on them for charging us to fix the problem and not until two years' later.

  • by unfrostedpoptart,

    unfrostedpoptart unfrostedpoptart Apr 29, 2013 12:12 PM in response to Joseph Casey
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    Apr 29, 2013 12:12 PM in response to Joseph Casey

    As this has dragged on for years, I've also gotten tired of the big gaps from the bezels of my multiple monitors.  I thought the solution to both problems (at least on my desktop) was finally affordable with the new Seiki 50" (wish it was smaller) 4k monitor for $1300!  However, a combination of problems with both the monitor and the Mac look like they'll make this unusable:

     

    • The monitor only has HDMI, not DP.
      • HDMI 1.4a (the latest for now) can only do 4k at 30Hz
      • People who've tried the monitor with a rMBP have found it's even worse:
        • The current Mac driver only goes to 17Hz
        • To add insult to injury, when running Windows, the rMBP does run it at 30Hz!

     

    Then there's the Sharp 32" 4k monitor that just came out for $5k (too much!).  It also fails:

    • It does have DP so doesn't run into the HDMI bandwidth problem.
    • However, for 4k @ 60Hz, it uses DP's multi-display-streams.  This is supposed to be for daisy-chained monitors (like the Apple TB Display) but makes the Sharp look like two 1920x2160 monitors so it's back to all of ML's multiple-monitor problems...
  • by Trane Francks,

    Trane Francks Trane Francks Apr 29, 2013 12:38 PM in response to Joe Kinlaw
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    Apr 29, 2013 12:38 PM in response to Joe Kinlaw

    Joe Kinlaw wrote:

     

    Relief in the pipeline?

     

    From http://9to5mac.com/2013/04/29/apple-to-update-os-x-with-new-power-user-features- more-from-ios-later-this-year/

     

    "The ability to keep a different “Space” or full-screen app open on a different monitor (in multiple monitor setups) is another important power-user feature coming in 10.9."

     

    Maybe a solution to this particular problem, but the rest of the OS updates sound dire to this kid. E.g., "According to one source, Apple has been testing a new multi-tasking system for OS X that is similar to the quick-app-switcher function on iPhones, iPads, and iPod touches. The multitasking feature will be functional for applications in the background, according to this person. Additionally, Apple could use app-pausing technologies from iOS to pause background application processes in OS X."

     

    One of the things about UNIX that I love with all my tech heart is how well it multitasks. This quote from the article, to me, sounds as though they're bound, bent and determined to destroy everything and anything good about OS X. I do not want my next MacBook to look, act and feel as though it's a hybrid iPad Pro Retina.

     

    I think I'll go sit in the corner and rock back and forth now.

  • by David_Ha,

    David_Ha David_Ha Apr 29, 2013 5:25 PM in response to unfrostedpoptart
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    Apr 29, 2013 5:25 PM in response to unfrostedpoptart

    Interesting info.  I don't know how that Seiko slipped under my radar, I'd think it would get a ton of press with such a break through price.

     

    I actually think ~50" is the perfect resolution for a 4K monitor.  Anything smaller and everything is going to look so small it's going to be horrible.

  • by BigHeadMax,

    BigHeadMax BigHeadMax May 16, 2013 9:03 AM in response to donebylee
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    May 16, 2013 9:03 AM in response to donebylee

    Looks like I've got work around. 

    • Make an App "FullScreen" On which ever monitor you want it on,
    • Assign it to a specific desktop.  It will stay fullscreen.
    • the top bar will still be at the top but every other feature of fullscreen will work.

     

    It is not a pretty solution & there may be some artifacts, but that is why it is a work around.

    To undo it you will need to going into the menu or hit esc and and unassign the app from a desktop.

  • by Seychellian,

    Seychellian Seychellian May 19, 2013 3:49 AM in response to BigHeadMax
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    May 19, 2013 3:49 AM in response to BigHeadMax

    Assign it to a specific desktop.  It will stay fullscreen.

     

    Sorry I dont understand this step.

     

    Can you elaborate on that please?

  • by Jerry Dalton1,

    Jerry Dalton1 Jerry Dalton1 May 19, 2013 8:55 AM in response to Seychellian
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    May 19, 2013 8:55 AM in response to Seychellian

    I tried to follow the steps.

    (1)  The app cannot be assigned to a desktop while in full screen, it must be assigned prior to entering fullscreen

    (2)  the dreaded linen STILL appears on the non-fullscreen monitor

     

    I don't see this as a work-around. 

     

    The only work-arounds to date are the windowing Apps, such as Cinch, Divvy, TileWindows, Breeze that are available on the App store under utilities. 

  • by MikeHudson,

    MikeHudson MikeHudson May 21, 2013 7:37 AM in response to donebylee
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    May 21, 2013 7:37 AM in response to donebylee

    Wow! Was planning to get a Macbook Pro to use on the road and as a dekstop replacement (I have dual screens). Luckily I stumbled on this thread, and am now rethinking that strategy.

     

    Amazed that this thread is 2 years old and 49 pages long!

  • by phluffski,

    phluffski phluffski May 21, 2013 7:42 AM in response to donebylee
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    May 21, 2013 7:42 AM in response to donebylee

    Cumon team, let's push for 100 pages..

     

    Let's go for gold.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 21, 2013 9:17 AM in response to phluffski
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    May 21, 2013 9:17 AM in response to phluffski

    Gold level is 1,000 pages.

  • by ronaldfromdresden,

    ronaldfromdresden ronaldfromdresden May 21, 2013 9:25 AM in response to phluffski
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    May 21, 2013 9:25 AM in response to phluffski

    Hallo - my two cents for that topic and also in contribution to reach the goal:

     

    1, I do not have really an issue with the current support, however more flexibility in the choise of how to arrange and how to behave (of the functionality with MAximimized Mode / Full Screen Mode ) would be welcome

    2. I use my MBPro actually every day in dual monitor mode , with a second larger screen or with Projector and so far I have arranged my work to make it good for me

    3. Again, other folks sees that different

    4. In Presentation Mode ( with MS PPT ) , I enjoy the full screen for the folks, my preview just for me

    5. And yes, if I swipe to a different app ( maybe an Excel table ) it also swiping on the presentation screen - here I see some room for advantage. To have a customer view on one screen, my laptop screen shows something what I need

    And, in difference to a lot of people, I do not see a bug here

    The full screen mode is exactly doing what it is described - so, where is the bug? But again, improvements and flexibility are possible.

    Ronald

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