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MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

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  • Euroart Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 22, 2013 11:33 AM (in response to mittense)

    My retina story:

     

    1. LG SJA1 (2012 model) - small retention, bad pixel afer 3 weeks, replaced screen

    2. Samsung - yellow, warmer colors on one side, replaced

    3. Samsung - same thing, yellow, warmer colors on one side, replaced, bad pixel again after a while, replaced

    4. Samsung - same thing, yellow, warmer colors on one side, replaced whole computer, got brand new 2013 model

    5. LG SJA1 - no retention, bad pixel after 3 weeks, replaced whole computer

    6. LG SJA2 - no retention, no bad pixels but very yellow on one side!, replaced whole computer, got free ssd upgrade (Thank you Apple!)

    7. LG SJA2 - screen slightly warmer than SJA1, a bit warmer in the corners but not really noticable without test images. This screen is more like samsung so hopefully no retention but still better blacks and contrast than on samsung. 4 weeks now, hopefully they fixed bad pixel problems with this display. Hope ...

     

    All replacements were done on warranty basis, no 14 day return period. I am quite happy now as I got newer unit with double storage!

  • Rushen55 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 22, 2013 11:57 AM (in response to Euroart)

    This is my Screen details:

     

    Color LCD

    LP154WT1-SJA1

     

    Bought this retina laptop in 2012 relatively close to release date ( sorry I can't specify but it was around Late June/Early July I think). Have had a few small issues with burn-in as in if i go to the dashboard I can sometimes see the outline of the searchbar or something, but it is always very faint and goes away very quickly and has never bothered me as it is so faint and not even noticable unless you're looking for it, also can only ever see it on dashboard page and nowhere else so. Perhaps I was just lucky as I don't seem to have any issues anywhere near as serious as the ones you guys are talking about.

  • lynkozz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 2:55 PM (in response to Canuck1970)

    I mean the second lg display they made. I do not know the names of the screens because I have had no problems with my refurbished rmbp. You may know more than me but what I am saying is refurbished models have no IR problems and even my friend bought one refurbished and had no IR problems. The person back a few pages even got one refurbished and had no problems. He was the one I got this info from and the person who influenced me to get one refurbished.

  • lynkozz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 2:58 PM (in response to Canuck1970)

    And I am only a level 1. And just to let you know... I am 15 and just wanted to let people know about this. There is even the 14-day return policy on refurbished models and have a 1-year Warrenty and AppleCare can be purchased.

  • lynkozz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 3:01 PM (in response to DomdiDom)

    Read my replies above

  • Canuck1970 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 3:38 PM (in response to lynkozz)

    lynkozz wrote:

     

    I mean the second lg display they made. I do not know the names of the screens because I have had no problems with my refurbished rmbp. You may know more than me but what I am saying is refurbished models have no IR problems and even my friend bought one refurbished and had no IR problems. The person back a few pages even got one refurbished and had no problems. He was the one I got this info from and the person who influenced me to get one refurbished.

    IR on LG panels sometimes takes months to appear. So, the fact that you and your friends haven't seen it on your refurbished rMBP's doesn't prove that refurbs are IR-free. You haven't discovered a pattern. If all of the refurbs are still IR-free a year from now, then I'll be a believer. Until then, you need to keep an eye on it. By the way, SJA2 panels have also experienced IR, not just the SJA1 panels.

  • shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    May 23, 2013 5:39 PM (in response to Canuck1970)

    There's actually no evidence that SJA2 panels have image persistence. Been following this whole thread from its creation until now.

  • DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 5:37 PM (in response to shayster98)

    What do you consider evidence? It has been posted here that someone had an sja2 and IR. If you choose not to believe it, that's fine but in that case you shouldn't believe anything you don't see right in front of you.

     

    Speaking of evidence, there's NO evidence that Apple/LG fixed anything with the sja2 without a STATEMENT from either company stating it was fixed  with the sja2.

     

    btw, I've been following for several months myself.

  • shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    May 23, 2013 5:39 PM (in response to DomdiDom)

    Could you please find it and show it to me? I would believe it if I saw it.

     

    I have so far seen two posts about SJA2s with image persistence. The first one was someone who said their screen got messed up after using AirPlay Mirroring with their Apple TV. So I think they were confusing IR with a software graphical glitch. The other one was a Chinese thread which had a bunch of pictures of IR and 'SJA2' on the same page. Again, no clear evidence really. No credible source here has ever mentioned ghosting on their SJA2.

     

    Someone here said they got IR on their Samsung, do you believe that?

  • DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 6:00 PM (in response to shayster98)

    What would someone have to gain by lying about the sja2 or the ir on samsung. Was a surprised about the Samsung? sure but that only indicates to me that it's an apple issue beyond the panels, that LG's are more susceptible to than the Samsungs.  If true of course.

     

    The post I was talking about that I recall for sure was the Asian one I think you referred to. If you don't consider it  credible, that's fine, why consider anything credible then. Sorry, you can't pick and choose the posts you consider credible simply to suit what you want to believe. I take them all at face value. Otherwise what's the point of following this thread at all if you've concluded that the sja2 is the fix.

     

    Like I said, what evidence do you have that the sja2 is the fix. The lack of posts about sja2's having IR. That's not evidence of anything or maybe evidence of sale's of rmbp's dropping. I've seen ZERO evidence that the problem is fixed and at least 1 piece of evidence from an Asian site that it's not. To me that's just as credible as any other post I've read here. IMO.

     

    If you think about it, what's to stop anyone from posting IR pictures and claiming it was sja2 of someone had ulterior motives, yet there's only been one. I believe it.

  • shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    May 23, 2013 6:03 PM (in response to DomdiDom)

    Oh hey, I don't think anyone would lie about it. I'm just not sure the 'SJA2' on that page was related to the pictures on the first post. I never said there's ANY evidence it's completely fixed for sure; I'm just saying there isn't any evidence that SJA2s can develop IR either.

  • Jeff F.1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 6:22 PM (in response to Euroart)

    I've owned in excess of 15 computers over the past 12 years and I've NEVER had a screen with a bad pixel, nor for that matter any display issues that prompted me to request a replacement unit.  That you would churn through seven computers suggests an issue with you as a consumer.  As an Apple shareholder, please torment another manufacturer with your "patronage."  Simply unbelievable.

  • Canuck1970 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 23, 2013 8:11 PM (in response to Jeff F.1)

    Jeff F.1 wrote:

     

    I've owned in excess of 15 computers over the past 12 years and I've NEVER had a screen with a bad pixel, nor for that matter any display issues that prompted me to request a replacement unit.  That you would churn through seven computers suggests an issue with you as a consumer.  As an Apple shareholder, please torment another manufacturer with your "patronage."  Simply unbelievable.

     

    Yeah, we're just imagining things and being totally unreasonable...
    IR.jpg

     

    (This image took only 5 minutes to be retained on my old LG panel)

  • 60wpm Level 1 Level 1 (125 points)
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    May 25, 2013 11:08 AM (in response to Canuck1970)

    "Where's there's smoke, there's fire."

  • Will37 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 25, 2013 12:54 PM (in response to Canuck1970)

    Canuck,

    Are the images noticable on lighter backgrounds? How long do they persist? And is there a way to make them fade faster?

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