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Aperture deleting original file?

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May 28, 2013 7:17 PM

I am using Aperture 3.4.4.  OSX 10.7.5.  My library is referenced.  I check the links everytime I use the library.  I do so with a Smart Album that has a Rule with the File Status for Missing.  Today, all of sudden there were 3 photos (out of 9,500) showed up as missing in the Smart Album.  Everything was fine the last time I used the library earlier today.  I was very surprised.  I was even more surprised when I opened up the folder that should contain the original photos.  These photos were missing.  But these photos have been in this folder for years.  I certainly did not delete these photos.  Can it be that Aperture deleted them?  Anyone else may have experienced the same problem?  What may be going on here?

   Because I know the file integrity is very important, I often hold down the command and option keys and do a File Repair before I add more photos in the library.  Is this a dangerous procedure?

   Thanks.  Tom

Mac OS X (10.7.5), 4 GB memory, 1TB hard drive
  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,760 points)
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    May 28, 2013 10:28 PM (in response to tclk35)

    Can you find out when exactly the files vanished by comparing with your backup? If you use Time Machine for backup, you could go back in time and find out the date.

     

     

       Because I know the file integrity is very important, I often hold down the command and option keys and do a File Repair before I add more photos in the library.  Is this a dangerous procedure?

     

    No, that is a routine operation, and also it will not move or remove referenced files, since they are not part of the library.

    Where is your folder with the referenced files located? On an external or an internal drive? How did you last use these images?

     

    Referenced files can sometimes get lost for several reasons:

    • When you acess these files from other applications.
    • When you sync this folder across the network.
    • When you accidentally access the files by including them into a smart search in the Finder, for example the "All Photos" view.
    • When an external editor - used from Aperture - accidentally does a "Save As" instead of "Save" and overwrites existing files.
    • When a cleaner or maintainance aoolication looking for duplicate files cleans the wrong files.
    • When the file system of the drive becomes corrupted after a crash and needs repairing.
    • When the drive has bas blocks or is starting to fail for other reasons.

     

     

    The first thing I'd do, when files start vanishing, would be to create a new backup, but not overwrite your most recent backup.

     

    Have you searched for the files with Spotlight or "Find Any File", if they have been moved?

    And checked the integrity of the File System with Disk Utility? If the refereced files are on your internal drive, you will have boot into Reovery, to use Disk Utility on the drive, OS X: About OS X Recovery

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,760 points)
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    May 29, 2013 6:44 AM (in response to tclk35)

      I use Time Machine for backup.

      I lost the 3 photos yesterday morning from the folder next to the Aperture Library.  Very strange.

    Have you checked in Time Machine, if the originals were really still in this folder day before yesterday? The problem is, that lost originals can go unnoticed for a long, long time, as long as you do not edit the images or try to export the originals.

    I just use Disk Utility to verify my boot drive.  All is OK.

    That is reassuring.

     

        •  My external boot drive seems to behave normally.  How do I tell if it may be starting to fail?  Do you SMARTReporter?

    I occasionally run Apple Hardware Test: OS X Mountain Lion: Use Apple Hardware Test

    If your Mac came with installation disks that may work for your Mac as well.

     

    I hope somebody will come up with more ides. I have never seen Aperture delete original referencd image files on its own.

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,760 points)
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    May 29, 2013 7:35 AM (in response to tclk35)

    Can Time Machine delete 3 photos when backing up?

    I have never heard of something like that happen, but browse the TM forum, if there is any known issue. TM can only delete files, when you accidentally restore a folder to a version, where the files are missing.

     

    But could you restore the missing originals from your backup?

     

    As I said, my Aperture does not respond to changing Date and Time under Batch Change under Metadata

    Does it not respond at all, or only change the time of some images? If t does not change all file alles, check the "Primary Only" flag in the Edit" menu, if it has been accidentally set.

     

    BTW: Under Metadata I see "Adjust Date and Time" (not under Batch Change) and "Batch Change > Adjust Time zone".

     

    Which of these options are you asking about?

    If you are asking about "Batch Change > Adjust Time zone", that is not working well with some Canon Cameras, but "Metadata >Adjust Date and Time" should work. In what way does it not work? If you select the command, nothing happens? Or is it grayed out?

    In that case I would test, if it only happens in your current user account or in all accounts, before you go for a reinstall. If it only happens in your account, trash Apertures Preferences file.

     

    Regards

    Léonie





     

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