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Greens from my Nikon D800 are way over saturated and too bluish  14 bit NEF

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Greens from my Nikon D800 are way over saturated and too bluish 14 bit NEF uncompressed files. I have no problem with raw files from other cameras is there a setting I am missing somewhere?

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  • Clem Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    Can you post a screen shot and a sample NEF to DL and try?

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,525 points)

    What is your Aperture version?


    Are you having the problem with a wrong tint with artificial light or low light, or also in bright sunlight?

    You may want to have a look at the threads with similar problems to compare symptoms:

    Nikon Raw files decoder - loss of information and oversatured pics


    Re: Raw Color Treatment



  • Clem Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    Yes I see the shift you refer to. Seems less saturated to me, not more, but I do see the slight blueish-ness. Might try a custom camera preset for that model as a default, if you can find a raw fine tuning adjustment that moves the picture more in a direction to your liking.

  • Ernie Stamper Level 8 Level 8 (37,455 points)



    I have been shooting my D800 for over a year now, and I have not observed what you are discussing, particularly in outdoor, natural light situations.


    I have downloaded your NEF, and imported it into Aperture (3.4.5).  I notice two things right away:  1) you are using Uncompressed NEF, 14 bit recording;  and 2) you seem to have a custom White Balance.  The former should be of no matter, but would be interested if you have been able to discern any advantage over Lossless Compression, 14 bit?


    However, the important concern is with the Custom White Balance impact on the rendering of NEFs in RAW in Aperture.  I am planning to do a study of this, and am wondering if you could test your resutls in similar shots with Auto White Balance rather than any preset (yours or the camera standard presets)?


    I by practice only shoot Auto White Balance (and RAW), but recently I have found benefit to using a preset WB when shooting video since that result will not be modifiable later on the computer.  After doing this, I have sometimes forgotten to reset the WB to Auto before again shooting stills in RAW, and the resulting difference vs once reset has been curious.


    While it is well known that Picture Controls when used and shooting RAW will likely result in wide differences between the Camera Preview and Aperture's first rendering, I am less certain what the dynamics of White Balance settings and first rendering in Aperture.


    Thanks for the test image and chance to discuss this.



  • Ernie Stamper Level 8 Level 8 (37,455 points)

    Btw, with you image in Aperture, I chose Natural Gray for the WB test, used the tree trunk as proxy for Natural Gray, and achieved what to me is a much more realistic rendering.  I think this points to your Custom WB as an issue in the saturation/tint observation.



  • Ernie Stamper Level 8 Level 8 (37,455 points)

    Nice website!


    Whether there is something unique to the D800 in this discussion, I do not know.  But limited Google searches indicates that similar issues have been discussed in this tint regard and custom white balancing for both Aperture and Lightroom.


    Most of my shooting is inside, and in venues where I would not have the chance to develop much thought about manual WB.  So, I have become accustomed to needing to adjust WB in Aperture, post production.  As I said earlier, I only had to confront setting a certain WB due to needs when shooting video where privileges of RAW are not available.


    Thinking about nature shots, and good outdoor light may be something I need to consider.  But I am not convinced that customizing the WB is going to be rewarded in initial renderings in Aperture.  Whether this is related to the implimentation of the Digital RAW coding by someone other than the camera manufacturer, I do not know.




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