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klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hello

 

I like to have all my pictures in one place to share them with apple tv, so I decided to give aperture a try.

 

I imported all images (about 36000 from 12 years) into one aperture library.

Before importing I switched off face detection and preview generation.

 

After finishing I had a 236 GB library, but aperture starts to generate some thumbnails.

Problem is, it freezes on generating them.

 

I used the activity window to hunt down what is happeing and found out that it stops when it comes to a specific picture.

 

So I managed to

1) start aperture

2) open activity window

3) stop the thumbnail generation when it starts

4) delete the picture where the aperture have problems

 

This way I managed to get from about 5700 thumbanisl to do to a number of 3500 thumbnails to do, but aperture keeps freezing at a single pic (the bad one)

 

But now, aperture starts thumbnail generation so quickly that I cannot open activity window and stop the progress before it reaches the bad one.

 

@Apple: could we have an option like "safe start" that won't schedule any processes for thumbnails before the user wants it?

 

So, any ideas out there? I tried everything I found like repairing, rebuilding, no help.

Is there any kind of log to look into? I am a newbie in mac os and aperture.

 

Regards

Klaus


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
  • 1. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,725 points)

    Have you tried to launch Aperture with the shift-key held down? That will defer the generation of previews and hopefully let you browse the library, before it will freeze again.

     

    Do you know, which image the "bad" one is? Delete it from the library, if you get a chance.

  • 2. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    leonieDF,

     

    I did not know about the shift key, thanks for that

     

    In the meantime I had the chance to startup aperture and cancel the thumbnail generation.

    I navigated to the bad file to delete it, but when I click on it, it tries to load it and "beachball of death" again ( now for 2 hours!!)

     

    This "bad" one is a video, some of the former bad ones were videos too, so does aperture have a problem in general with video files? Maybe its a good idea to just import all pictures and do the videos in a separate step afterwrds? Otherwise with 36000 pics (and about 300 videos between them) this is tedious...

     

    Regards

    Klaus

  • 3. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,725 points)
    This "bad" one is a video, some of the former bad ones were videos too, so does aperture have a problem in general with video files? Maybe its a good idea to just import all pictures and do the videos in a separate step afterwrds? Otherwise with 36000 pics (and about 300 videos between them) this is tedious...

     

    Klaus,

    Aperture may have a problem with videos, if you have a problematic video codec installed, if the video is corrupted, or incompatible with Aperture. What kind of videos did you import?

     

    If you can, delete the whole project, so that you do not need to select the video and reimport only the image files.

     

    Check, if you have the 3ivxVideoCodec installed - if yes, remove it,

    see: Aperture 3: May be unresponsive or have slower performance with third-party video codec

    This codec could have been installed for example by FlipForMac.

     

    If you do not want to delete all of your last import, you could try to delete the bad video directly from the Aperture library package:

    • Quit Aperture. Ctrl-click the Aperture library and select "Show Package Content" from the pop-up menu. Open the "masters" folder and navigate to the Year-Month-day of your last import. If you can find the video there, remove it, but don't change anything else. Afterwards the video should show as missing. Delete the version from the library. The dates in the Library package are based on "Import session", not capture dates.
    • Before manipulating the Library, make sure you have a current backup.

    Regards

    Léonie

     

    A list of supported videos is here, but it is not exhaustive:

    Aperture 3: About Video and Audio formats in Aperture

  • 4. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Leonie

     

    I will check about the codec this evening

     

    In one of the former aperture starts I managed to delete a bad pic which really was a jpeg

    So is there a chance to have corrupted images too?

     

    By the way, I imported all my images and videos by importing complete iphoto libraries (all current version 9.3.4)

    Do you know a way how to selectivy import from iphoto (I like to keep faces and stuff)

     

    Klaus

  • 5. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,725 points)

    By the way, I imported all my images and videos by importing complete iphoto libraries (all current version 9.3.4)

    Do you know a way how to selectivy import from iphoto (I like to keep faces and stuff)

    To selectively import from iPhoto do the following:

    • Open your iPhoto Library in Aperture, select the albums or projects you want to import to Aperture and export them as a new Aperture library.   File > Export > ..... As new library.
    • Then import this partial library into Aperture

     

    Regards

    Léonie

     

     

    In one of the former aperture starts I managed to delete a bad pic which really was a jpeg

    So is there a chance to have corrupted images too?

    That is hard to say. Is the library on an external drive? Maybe the drive is failing?

  • 6. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    firstlaunch Level 3 Level 3 (610 points)

    Klawusal,

     

    Another option to try is to export the project containing the bad video/images to a new library. Then do a repair on the exported library and then see if it opens and is OK. If it is, you can then delete the original library from the main library (making sure you've backed up before all this). Then, check the main library and see if it works better. Maybe it's just that set of video and images.

     

    Also, can you select the bad videos while in Browser only mode to delete the bad files without crashing/hanging?

  • 7. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    firstlaunch

     

    The library is about 200 GB in space

     

    How long will this export?

    And how long will be the repairing time?

     

    And no, when I try to show the bad file in browser mode aperture dies (cpu at max)

     

    thanks

    Klaus

  • 8. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Leonie,

     

    I looked in the package folder and found the image that was shown in the activity window when aperture dies

    But its ok, I can look at it in finder and preview without any issues

     

    Also no codec like 3ivxVideoCodec, here is my list

    file://localhost/Library/QuickTime/AppleIntermediateCodec.component/

    file://localhost/Library/QuickTime/AppleMPEG2Codec.component/

    file://localhost/Library/QuickTime/DivX%20Decoder.component/

    file://localhost/Library/QuickTime/DivX%20Encoder.component/

     

    My library is local and managed

     

    Regards

    Klaus

  • 9. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    firstlaunch Level 3 Level 3 (610 points)

    Hi,

     

    I suggested only to export the one project containing the bad video/images as a library. The time it takes to export depends on how many images and videos are in that project. It shouldn't take long though asumming it's not huge. The repair should also be pretty quick if the project was small.

     

    Steps:

    1. Open the library.

    2. Select the project with the bad images while in Browser only mode.

    3. Select File>Export>Project as New Library

    4. Select your desktop destination and check the 3 checkboxes to include originals and previews and alert when done.

    5. Quit Aperture after export was completed.

    6. Launch the new library from your desktop while holding down the Option+Command keys.

    7. Select Repair and let it finish repair and launch Aperture.

    8. Select the project and the bad images/videos to see if they still crash.

  • 10. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    all,

     

    I do not really understand what aperture is doing on my system:

     

    I started it using shift key to defer the thumbnail generation which works fine.I opened the activity window

     

    I switched to viewer mode (1 picture) and aperture started to generate the thumbnail for the first image

    After that the activity list in aperture was empty, but this process eats up my system

     

    /System/Library/XPCServices/com.apple.qtkitserver.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple. qtkitserver

    generates 134 % cpu load, although aperture seems to be reactive

     

    What does this process do? The fan keeps roaring for minutes now

     

    Just to test if aperture still lives I switched view to browser mode (multiple pics)

    Now I see that aperture builds thumbs for all pictures I scroll to in the browser mode

     

    I it possible to browse over all images to geenrate thumbnails, or are there more than one kind of thumbs?

  • 11. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,725 points)

    QTKitServer hogging CPU: Apple Support Communities

     

     

    Have a look at (the last post in) this thread.

     

    Are your videos AVIs?

  • 12. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I read here about some videso hogging the hole machine

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2148759?start=0&tstart=0

     

    So my plan is now to remove all videos from my library.

     

    Is there a way to do this from OUTSIDE of aperture (remeber visiting a video in aperture browser starts spinning ball) maybe using spotlight in aperture package folder?

     

    Or is there some script out there that automates this (removing files of given type from aperture folders)?

     

    Thanks for all hints

  • 13. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    klawusel Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    hi leonie you are quick !!!

     

    do you have a masterpan to remove all videos form my aperture?

     

    Maybe to put them in a folder of their own and look at them outside of aperture before putting them back piec by piece?

     

    Klaus

  • 14. Re: aperture thumbnail generation forever
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,725 points)

    Maybe to put them in a folder of their own and look at them outside of aperture before putting them back piec by piece?

    Try to collect all videos in a smart album:

         File > New > Smart Album  ⇧⌘L

     

    Then add a rule  "File Type is video"

     

    Can you select all videos in that smart album and use the command "File > Relocate"?

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