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  • 840. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Japecan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I for one was really disappointed with cover flow gone also, but it did give me back about 3 - 3.5 gb back to my system and found more album art work very quickly.  I am happy so far.

  • 841. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Crewzcontrol Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have a very large recorded audio library (music and radio dramas), so early on I opted  not to include artwork to save storgae space. Also, when listening to audio, I didn't spend a lot of time looking at my computer or iPod to warrant the inclusion of extra graphics.

     

    However, as I converted my collection of dvds into mp4 format, I found Cover Flow to be a very useful and appealing interface for my movies and television series. I have spent countless hours taking screen grabs of movie and television titles and editing them to use with Cover Flow. It made sense because I look at the computer or iPod when I use my videos and the artwork gives quick cues as to what the content is.

     

    When I first tried iTunes 11 I was hugely disappointed that Cover Flow was gone. I immediately purged my system of the new iTunes and returned to iTunes 10.4.

     

    So, in summary, at first Cover Flow was of little significance to me. Now, it is a dealbreaker, and I am delaying buying a new Mac which would force me into the 'upgraded' iTunes. If I have to live the rest of my life not being able to make purchases in the iTunes store and hunting down used Macs to ensure that I have Cover Flow, I will. Please bring back Cover Flow as an option.

  • 842. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    Trane Francks wrote:

    Mark, there's no difference between a graphics image that looks 3D and one that looks flat. They're still a fixed number of pixels and they're still 2D representations. The only difference is that one looks 2D and one looks 3D. Given identical dimensions, the graphics rendering for them is identical. For a CPU/GPU, there is no difference whatsoever between 2D and pseudo-3D. It's only when you're rendering genuine 3D objects within a virtual environment that performance becomes an issue.

    I get what you're saying about the display not caring if the image is 2D or 3D, but the demo at the WWDC yesterday seemed to support (in a small way) what I was saying about CPU activity and power drain with 3D objects. Federighi made a big point about improved power management, and one of his examples used a Safari window with a moving, 3D Periodic Table of the elements. (Did anyone else notice the typo? Uranium was spelled "Urasium." That'll be the end of someone's Apple career.) The high power usage of the 3D elements in Safari dropped to zero when iTunes in Album view was dragged to the front to cover up Safari. Anyway, the moving 3D graphics in Cover Flow are probably a "walk in the park" and only a minor power issue, as you and others have pointed out.

     

    Since Apple was boasting about dramatically improved battery life, better power management, better graphics, etc., I was hoping to see something like a new, improved Cover Flow back in the OS X Mavericks' version of iTunes. No such luck. Federighi demonstrated "super fast accelerated scrolling" in Mail and Safari, so I was sure he'd get to iTunes and do some scrolling through cover art. Bah! The brief glimpse of iTunes in the Mavericks presentation didn't show a new display option. Check it out about 33 minutes in: http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2013/

     

    I was happy to see that although Calendar went "flat," most of the OS still had rich graphics. Even the flatter iOS 7 had a super-cool 3D trick up it's sleeve.

  • 843. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Auxburgo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If you look at the Mac OS Mavericks and iOS 7 its pretty clear that coverflow wont make another apperance any time soon. I was expecting maybe to see it in the new iOS 7 but that all depended on how Jonny would redo the iOS.

     

    When they demoed iOS 7 iTunes and iTunes Radio you could have seen that there was not even a hit of coverflow. So, the only thing you have coverflow, right now, is Apple TV.

  • 844. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    marcel duchamp Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Dear Apple, please bring back Cover Flow (as an option if you want) NOW !!

    I will stay with itunes 10 until that.

  • 845. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    I spent some time yesterday with an Apple developer who sells audio apps that tie into iTunes. At audio trade shows (most recently in Newport, CA, about a week or so ago) he uses iTunes 10 to demo his software. He says it's a little more responsive, besides looking better. I find that to be the case also. Even in the Cover Flow view, iTunes 10 is fast and responsive.

  • 846. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    affenpinscher Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Mark, with all due respect,you admit you're not an expert and I can tell you you are reading way too much into it. Beware what you learn on Google.

     

    As you yourself indicated in several of your posts, let's just get back to the issue at hand. The removal of Coverflow is a huge loss that forced many to stay with an older version of the software. Many understand this to be a step back and an example of corporate short-sightedness. So far, what we can gather from Apple is that they are blind to all of that. Their lack of responsiveness on the issue is concerning. That is underscored by the current market climate in which they face the first meaningful competition ever in a couple of their top market sectors.

     

    Long and short, it's no time for Apple to be ignoring complaints like these.

  • 847. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    affenpinscher wrote:

     

    Mark, with all due respect,you admit you're not an expert and I can tell you you are reading way too much into it. Beware what you learn on Google.

    I promise I'll stop.

  • 848. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Nikos Lazaridis Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    From yesterday's WWDC presentation, it is obvious that Cover Flow will soon be extinct.  Right now, the only device that still supports it is the iPhone/iPod - even the iPad has changed the style of the player and it doesn't have Cover Flow.

     

    With iOS 7, there will be no Cover Flow on the iPhone/iPod anymore.  I am staying put on the latest iOS 6 that has Cover Flow.  Really don't care about battery life and all the rest of it.

  • 849. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Flyerchris Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)

    I think the new way in iOS 7 is an improvement. It is possible to view more covers (than just one in front and some others by side) on the screen and "flow" them all with a wipe. By touching one, the content is shown. In my opinion, this is better than the old cover flow.

     

    But this thread is about Cover Flow in iTunes, and in iTunes I really, really do miss Cover Flow so much, it just hurts.

  • 850. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    MacPow75 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Crewzcontrol wrote:

     

    If I have to live the rest of my life not being able to make purchases in the iTunes store and hunting down used Macs to ensure that I have Cover Flow, I will. Please bring back Cover Flow as an option.

     

    Yea, me too... but that means we will no longer be Apple customers and since we are not the customers they want, they won't care...

     

    Battery life... yea, I get that. How much extra battery time do we get with terminating coverflow??? A couple minutes, hours... No, I think it is worse than that that.... it is a streamlining and convergence of the different operating systems.

  • 851. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    Flyerchris wrote:

     

    I think the new way in iOS 7 is an improvement. It is possible to view more covers (than just one in front and some others by side) on the screen and "flow" them all with a wipe. By touching one, the content is shown. In my opinion, this is better than the old cover flow.

     

    But this thread is about Cover Flow in iTunes, and in iTunes I really, really do miss Cover Flow so much, it just hurts.

    I agree that the upcoming iOS 7 is pretty cool and, in spite of being more "flat," much more sophisticated looking than the Android and MS competition.

     

    Now it's incumbent on the iTunes and OS X teams to bring the 3D "parallax effect," transparency and swiping functions to iTunes, perhaps in the form of a new, improved version of Cover Flow.

     

    I'm not wedded to Cover Flow. What I need is an elegant way to browse through my music tracks with the visual aid of album artwork. I understand Apple's desire to update the look of iTunes, but the team messed up. Apple took out Cover Flow without having a replacement for it. The beauty and functionality of iOS 7 makes it clear that iTunes 11 could have been much, much better, and Cover Flow should not have been abandoned completely.

  • 852. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Paulhaiz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Tbh I don't like the new design, I think the new icons make the design look cheap. But this post if about the loss of cover flow in iTunes. And what gets me is now on the iOS deceive if u look at the new multitab view of safari it looks like cover flow has had a make over.

     

    Tbh the main reason I have an iPhone is for the music experience the apps are like any other device the screen size is soo much smaller, but the music system is just unparalleled compared to anything other I have seen. I can't seem to find any pictures (that are official) of the new music app... I shall let mates download the upgrade and see what their opinion is...

     

    Getting back to cover flow gone in iTunes 11, if they are gonna make the OSX have more integration/look more like the iOS in so many ways (I read that they were gonna make the two act flawlessly together) if they put the new tab view in OSX in some way and there is no return of a cover flow I am just gonna loook like a big '?' Lol as I will have nothing or no where to go o.0

     

    Stupid apple hue bulbs only work with apple phones/pads com'on android release a compatible app!

  • 853. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Paulhaiz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    And thoes that complain about battery life? It runs out fast anyways, with our with out it, I can't see a difference in memory usage, other than iTunes 10 takes up .4 of a GB less that iTunes. It's like a bloke said earlier how much battery life are we meant to be getting as an extra now they have removed it? Probs none in fact I think it's probably a compensation factor, as in 'we remove cover flow and add notification Center, batter usage goes up 1% but no one will care'

  • 854. Re: Is cover flow gone in iTunes 11?
    Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    Just watched the video Apple made about design for the WWDC. It's quite good. Ironically, it's also the perfect criticism of iTunes 11 and the removal of Cover Flow.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZmIiIXuZ0

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