Currently Being ModeratedJun 13, 2013 4:22 PM (in response to Kenneth Keen1)
Currently Being ModeratedJun 13, 2013 4:27 PM (in response to Kenneth Keen1)
In the lower left of your FCE workspace, third or fourth from the left, there is a rectangle that looks like a bar graph. If you hover your mouse you will see that it's called "Toggle Timeline Track Height". Click the tallest bar to maximize the track heights within your timeline.
Keep in mind that as you stretch the timeline area itself, you are overall increasing or decreasing the screen space devoted to the timeline, and the tracks will only change height relative to the overall height of the timeline area.
The "extra" grey space is where additional audio and/or video tracks would go if you create them.
I hope this helps.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 14, 2013 1:58 AM (in response to Meg The Dog)
Exactly! I want to reduce the grey area to zero and then be able to view the video or audio tracks in the limited space of my Macbook. When I try to pull up the boundary between audio and video a thick dark grey bar appears around the whole video section and when I move it, an "x" appears - indicating that this is not allowed. Someone who uses "windows 8" suggests that this is deliberate so that Apple can sell more external screens and presumably this would not be a problem then with ample space.
Incidently how did you make that red arrow? That is a very useful feature to be able to clearly indicate a point on the screen!
Thanks for your help!
Currently Being ModeratedJun 14, 2013 2:31 AM (in response to MartinR)
Thanks MartinR, yes the Toggle bars can be adjusted so that I can see all the tracks - just in the smallest setting - however this also creates a huge area of grey which serves no other purpose than to "use up screen space". If this is deliberate then there is nothing one can do - since presumably the additional profit made on screen sales is more important to Apple, than the combined annoyance to those working on a 13" laptop. Of course a 15" screen or even 17" screen may make this wastage less obvious. Please indicate that this is all incorrect and explain why it is important to have space waiting "for additional tracks", even if I have no intention of making additional tracks. If that is the answer then perhaps additional space to the left and right of the timeline would be useful in case I wish to make a 30 minute film, so that it could be placed there without having to drag anything. It may be that I am expecting software than can be tailor adjusted, each parameter to the desired level as in professional items and since this is a cheap consumer program it is not possible.
I bought Final Cut Pro for a lot of money (when it first appeared it was thousands and not just hundreds) but never used it since it was too complicated and tedious, but maybe there, this problem of screen wastage does not occurr, perhaps someone can advise! I could go back and reinstall it, but it was made for 10.2.8 and not 10.6.8 so it would not run on this macbook. I recently bought an old 15" TitaniumPowerbook (from 2005) and despite running at 1MHz the response time on it is "instantaneous" - amazing to not have the almost half second delay on many commands - graphics appear nearly immediately (just 5 milliseconds delay) and this makes working so much more enjoyable, not having the (350ms) stutter of 10.6.8 which we all get used to after our initial disappointment.
Thanks for your help!
Currently Being ModeratedJun 16, 2013 7:42 AM (in response to Kenneth Keen1)
No answer to important matters such as large spaces on the screen remaining grey, when screen economy is important for all of us who can't afford to buy more equipment to overcome the obstacles that Apple place in the way.
I would love to believe that Apple makes honest items without any hidden agenda, but since there have been no responses to my above questions I am left thinking that my doubts of their integrety are based on fact.
If someone knows another workaround, then let me know. I see the same procedure in several other applications and there it could be argued that "styling" is the reason. In "Finder", much space is wasted and things are arranged to inihibit easy access and there I could imagine that "the Apple Style" would be the sole argument that could be offered to defend the waste. But in Final Cut Express, the space is so obviously important that to argue that style takes precedence over efficiency, would be very weak to say the least.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 16, 2013 7:45 AM (in response to Kenneth Keen1)
Did you click the tallest (largest) of the vertical bars in "Toggle Timeline Track Height". Each bar sets a different track height. When you click the tallest bar the tracks will be their tallest and there should not be any remaining unused grey space above or below the tracks.
If you have unused grey area, it is either unused tracks or it is area for you to add more tracks. If you have unused tracks, you can delete them and it will free up space in your timeline window. If you have plain unused grey area outside the tracks, the way to disappear it is to drag the top of the timeline window down until the unused grey space disappears. In both cases, clicking the tallest track height toggle will maximize the vertical size of your tracks.
If you can only click the smallest bar (or if all the bars set the tracks to the same height) then there is something not working right. I'd suggest deleting the preferences file and restarting Final Cut. To do this, use the Finder to navigate to your /username/Library/Preferences folder
- Remove the "com.apple.finalcutexpress.plist" file from the Preferences folder.
- Remove the "Final Cut Express User Data" folder from the Preferences folder.
- DO NOT remove the "Final Cut Express User Settings" folder
Currently Being ModeratedJun 16, 2013 7:48 AM (in response to Kenneth Keen1)
Your imagination is running a bit wild. You have something that's not working right, it's not a conspiracy to sell you a larger display.
And please keep in mind that these are User forums, we are amost all users here. While there are also a few Apple employees in the forums (they are called Community Specialists), their role here is just like other contributors who are Mac users.
These forums are not a paid Apple support area, nor is this an Apple complaint box.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 16, 2013 2:39 PM (in response to MartinR)
Thanks Martin, of course I have imagination. We are not talking about conspiracy, I am just realistic to analyse why on earth Apple would as you say provide:
"The "extra" grey space is where additional audio and/or video tracks would go if you create them."
But there is no "if" since I don't want to create anything. Your reply does not add anything real to the solution except suggesting "conspiracy" and "wild imagination" or "something not working right".
Are you also able to get the "x" meaning "not possible" when you try to reduce the size of the grey area? This demonstates that Apple don't want you to reduce the grey area.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 16, 2013 3:14 PM (in response to MartinR)
Thanks Martin, it looks like you are trying hard to answer the question but obviously you just don't know the answer. Of course I have tried ALL the parameters available and hence ask on this forum if someone has found a workaround. I suggest that your line "it is the area to add more tracks" means that you have accepted this redundent grey area - I don't want to see an area taking up 10% of my valuable screen space with grey that "might be needed if I happen to want to use 4 or more video tracks".
Your "way to disappear it" is amusing. What you suggest makes even MORE unused space and actually it is quite clear from the way things "snap" into preset positions that Apple simply have fixed this default and nothing discussed here will change that.
I don't want to waste any more of your time nor others' but will just make do with the waste and work with the tinyest bars so that everything remains in view but all around is unused grey - just for Apple "in case", sad but true.
You pretend whatever you want Martin and I will get on with working with other important issues. Nothing is achieved by complaining here. Not really sure why I thought that something could be changed, but I suppose I thought I would give it a try.